Shaman Changes in 5.1. FINALLY!!!

[heyaz]

so sustain is low, but burst is great for shamans? or not great. If Pally BOP the elemental shaman, can it kill someone with ascendance.

Sustain is low is true with pretty much all classes except maybe shadow priest. The warrior 200k crit heroic strike is with 5 stack of Taste For Blood + poping skull banner + reckenlessness. Its not something they can just use right off the bat. When I sit at the dummy, I get maybe 5 stack of Taste For blood in every 5-10mins with continuous attacking. In PVP if you CC/root the warrior, the stacks will fall off. 5 stack is OP right now. I crit the dummy for 600k (probably 200- 250k on player) with all CDs + 5 stack. So they are looking to nerf to stacking it no more than 3.

Only chaos bolt can crit 200k plus without any built up I think. But that's a 3 second cast. It wouldn't be right to let shaman throw instant lava burst to crit for 200k.

Burst is low for shaman in pvp all around. Ascendance burst is due to launching 500 30k lava burst really fast, not because lava burst hits any harder than a wet noodle.

Yes, the massive warrior crits are using cooldowns, but if shaman blow all cooldowns, no numbers like that are even remotely imaginable especially against classes with magic protection. With a massive amount of PVP power and trinket and jade spirit (or whatever it's called), you can Maybe get a 140k fulimination, but this even close to an on-demand ability. It's pure luck with your 8% crit as a ele shaman and waiting for a full stack.

It would be right however I think to let shaman throw a lava burst for 50-75k whether instant or not. Shadow priests pop you will 70-100k instants all day long. The problem with a hard hitting lava burst is ascendance would be too powerful.... but that being said, is it really more powerful than warrior burst cooldowns, shadow priest wings, mages with cooldowns, or anything else? They still 3 shot you anyway... with a 75k lava burst as a single shaman you still have to connect about 6 of them and the only way to do that is every 3 minutes through ascendance.