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  1. #21

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    A while ago I was banned for "exploiting the economy" after a GM helped me transfer my guilds bank between servers. I logged in on my recently transfered character on the new server, opened the guild bank to check all the gold was there, logged out and when I tried to log in on a different character my account was already banned.

    It's Blizzards default reason for banning someone and it's usually done by their automated detection system with no human verification that the ban is justified. That's the annoying part. When you call, ask them about reimbursing you for the subscription time they've wasted and see how far that gets you

    As for this new community manager, I don't think he'll last long if this is how he does business. Stating that he doesn't like a portion of the community he's employed to "manage" is pretty stupid.
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  2. #22

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apatheist View Post
    As for this new community manager, I don't think he'll last long if this is how he does business. Stating that he doesn't like a portion of the community he's employed to "manage" is pretty stupid.
    He said he agrees on a personal level with the statement that it breaks the spirit of the game, and that he understands the frustration people have when encountering a boxer in pvp. I don't think that there is much more to it. Moreover, it's pretty common sense what he says.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Apatheist View Post
    As for this new community manager, I don't think he'll last long if this is how he does business. Stating that he doesn't like a portion of the community he's employed to "manage" is pretty stupid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zenga View Post
    He said he agrees on a personal level with the statement that it breaks the spirit of the game, and that he understands the frustration people have when encountering a boxer in pvp. I don't think that there is much more to it. Moreover, it's pretty common sense what he says.
    The "spirit" of a game isn't something that can be dictated. Different people enjoy different things. What he's really saying is that he doesn't like it so he doesn't think it should be allowed, but he doesn't have the authority to ban it so he's forced to be tolerant.

    It's also nonsense when he talks about separating his personal views from his interaction with the community as a Blizzard employee. It's impossible to separate your beliefs from your actions. If he believes multiboxing is "wrong", his actions will reflect that, even if it's only in subtle ways - like tacitly endorsing the anti-boxer whinging on their forums.

    Quote Originally Posted by MiRai View Post
    Zarhym has been a CM on the forums since 2008.

    http://www.wowpedia.org/Zarhym
    Ah, I thought I read in the first post that he was new. I wouldn't know, I don't read the WoW forums. I'm surprised they allow their employees to make statements like that. Can't even see where I would have got new from now. Maybe I misread "wow community manager" as "new community manager".

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    Corporate folks in an official capacity (e.g. posting with your "blue" account) MUST present a consistent policy. Personal opinions, where they differ from the stated policy, are better placed on a personal blog. I suspect we'll see a "clarification" soon.
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    So many difficult words...
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    Why anyone takes anything seriously on the WoW forums is beyond me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ughmahedhurtz View Post
    Corporate folks in an official capacity (e.g. posting with your "blue" account) MUST present a consistent policy. Personal opinions, where they differ from the stated policy, are better placed on a personal blog. I suspect we'll see a "clarification" soon.
    I feel the same way. I doubt his position would be in any trouble with him being there 4+ years now. However openly going against company policy, on official company forums, generally isn't a good idea.

    If they were to decide boxers aren't welcome anymore, I wouldn't care. I'd give my personal guild bank to a friend and go play other MMOs, or catch up on my huge single player game backlog.

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    This isn't openly going against corporate policy, unless that policy forbids expressions of opinions. It's also not the guy saying he hates boxers, just that he thinks it isn't in keeping with his idea of what the spirit of the game is. So much desire for drama over such a non-issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kate View Post
    This isn't openly going against corporate policy, unless that policy forbids expressions of opinions. It's also not the guy saying he hates boxers, just that he thinks it isn't in keeping with his idea of what the spirit of the game is. So much desire for drama over such a non-issue.

    The reason it is an issue for us is we already experience a lot of hate. His "thoughts" on the matter will be interpreted by those said haters..and maybe a lot of people who are on the fence about it, to hate more. They will think hes "on their side" even if thats not his intentions. This falls under that popular bit of wisdom " with great power comes great responsibility! " He has the attention of the WoW community and has fanned the flames of hatred, maybe without knowing it.
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