Here we go again..

[Nikita]

Sooooo....

Quadboxing elemental shamans again in arena.. What a fucking total joke this class is! We went from having a great s8, with loads of high rated elemental shaman multiboxers, into one of histories worst season and expansion.. CATACLYSM S9! You could compare shamans to sheeps in a wolf cage. Then came season 10, we got buffed and there were a few boxers achieving somewhat high ratings. Myself hit close to 2000 rating with 2150 MMR. Then s11 emerged, we had legendary rogues which would kill one of your shamans in a single smokebomb, and we cant forget the lovely mage shatter-shit-on-you burst, combined with a lock multidotting you for thousands of dmg. This is where I stopped playing 5v5 with my shamans and geared up my paladin team and farmed LFR and heroics, patiently waiting for MoP.

So I saved up 4k JP and 4k honor, lvled up to 90, geared em in full honor gear. Now Im sitting at 32 % PvP power with 16 k spellpower and cant global shit, it takes me atleast 3 GCD to kill a target. Lava burst and Lightning bolt hits like a 6 year old girl in a boxing fight VS Tyson. Our defensive CDs has improved since Cataclysm, but that isnt helping us much since they made hunters, warriors, spriests, resto druids, locks and mages burst more and have more surivability then a GM on roids.

Unless they nerf other classes dmg, or buff elemental shamans dmg and survivability, Im giving up on this joke of a so called shaman class

Thanks and good night

[heyaz]

I can totally sympathize with him. I got my shaman to 90 last week, excited about new totem mechanics and ascendance. I'm only half honor geared, half crafted set, but I can extrapolate what I know to what they would be like fully geared, and it doesn't look promising (and Nikita confirms it).

They each almost get globaled by any of: ret paladin, warrior, shadow priest, mage. Killed through 4x healing tides too, no problem. My experience in BGs so far is blowing up people requires either ascendance + ele mastery and like 500 lava bursts, or 4x ele blast + 4x lvb + a few dozen lightning tickles to finish them off. The worst part is I have to use SWG because they actually have sufficient time to run from me when I pop ascendance.

I hadn't boxed in wotlk, and they were squishy and easily manipulated back then, but at least they blew stuff up. Now they can't even do that, not even close.

And how about, one shadow priest exhausting all of your tremor totems. Love that.

Things may get better, but I saved energy (<10 hours played on my 90s) so I could work on my next (melee) team.

[heyaz]

But... there's always enhancement!

no idea how that would even play but. 4 dks looks better on paper.

I'm not sure if there exists an exceedingly effective pvp multibox comp anymore or if there ever will be again. There were shaman in BC (lol purge, chain lighting, earth shock, dead), and 4x ret + dk in mid wotlk before the resil buff (death grip into a chainsaw, dead). The rest of the time, a few seasons here and there, a few comps here and there, were very viable to 2-2.2k ish in arena depending on your healer and battlegroup, but it was not easy.

[Ualaa]

This game can be frustrating at times.

I don't mind a bit of language, but don't necessarily like it either.
I can understand the need to vent; I've been there myself too.

Nikita has been around the boards for a couple of years, and language in his posts isn't common...

[valkry]

Agreed, I am struggling to kill targets quickly and if a healer/pillar is involved I can forget it. At 90 I pumped 36 lava bursts into a warlock, who didn't have a healer btw, and he lived. We get a nice def cd but other classes get "god mode you can't even pinch me" cds.

The shaman class is continuously being messed around, which usually means you get to spend a fair chunk of time at the top, but it seems we are fluctuating between middle and bottom. I'm preparing to level my resto druid and will roll around random BGs with that knowing that only a boxer will have a chance to kill me in an open field.

PS: I'm pretty sure I'm one of the more prolific cursers on this site and I have never been told off for it, bl Nikita haha

[Multibocks]

Sad to hear this, guess my shaman team will be the last to be leveled this expansion. Currently 10 boxing 4 dks 1 priest and 5 monks. TBH I wish I had 5 more dks.

[Ualaa]

Hopefully 8x Shaman with a Boomkin and Priest (Healer) will have the power to blow up random players in AV/IoC's.
Would be nice, if boxed Elemental Shaman had decent power against five random players...

[Nikita]

Random BGs are different story, with a pocket healer you can tank even 4-5 dps. But with just a hint of teamwork and some coordinated Cc your dead.

This problem might jusy be a gear issue, maybe we need full conq gear to kill stuff. The new patch is not out yet, and we can only hope for some dmg/survivability buff, or a major nerf to 60 % of all the dps specs

[heyaz]

May be a few patches away before shaman become viable. They really need an anti-cc, whether stun, silence, or incapacitate. Pop ascendance, elementary mastery, and spiritwalker's grace - get aoe incapacated by what - 4 classes now? Aoe stunned by a few as well. When people see 4-5 ethereals pop up, they get cc'd to death. The ethereal death sound is ringing in my ears.

[heyaz]

Random BGs are different story, with a pocket healer you can tank even 4-5 dps. But with just a hint of teamwork and some coordinated Cc your dead.

Yeah, it barely even needs teamwork. I've been BG'ing since WSG was introduced and I'm convinced there is a strong concept of team morale. Get a bunch of randoms together, not even a premade - couple kills happen, super paladin blows some stuff up, team gets excited. People start using abilities and cooldowns, being extremely aggressive, and next thing you know they are at your GY. Then your team's morale drops to nothing, no one wants to fight back, use cooldowns, or even defend themselves.

With boxing I've found once my team gets wiped, painfully, with no kills and a bunch of ethereals dying before they can cast, I'm focused and blown up constantly for the rest of the BG. Except when super shadow priest gets cocky and runs in to aoe fear, thinking he's gonna throw me off and runs like hell when I pop ascendance. But if it's melee, forget it.