Here we go again..

[Nikita]

Anyone have a clue when next patch will hit?

[valkry]

I believe my cursing stems from my background of growing up in a mining/pub/truckie town and it being part of our every day language is just second nature. But hey, that's just me and I'm not very intelligent.

With from patch 5.01 being on the PTR now, I'm going to guess 6 weeks. Season 13 gear is included in the new patch but it takes 17 weeks to get fully CP geared at 1650 CP a week, which won't have been possible yet.

PS: The correct spelling is, "you're." As in, "you're not intelligent enough."

[Ashley]

Still only 86 on my shamans Got a nice method to power level though, just doesn't become really effective until I got a bunch of 90s for the increased DPS.

[Apatheist]

I never expected Elemental to be any good, TBH. Even if the burst was there, it's just too easy to lock out or LOS boxed caster damage. I only rolled Shamans because I expected MOP heroics to be as hard on melee as Cataclysm's were, which they're not.

I've dropped my druid/shaman group in favor of 4x ret and a priest. I'm finding instance just as easy and the PvP is great. I may switch one of the Paladins to holy, drop the priest and add a DK at 90.. or keep the priest and just swap a ret. A DK would add a lot to the group. Haste buff from frost plus death grip/chains of ice would be nice for peeling off my healer.

Priest is pretty boss now, though. 30 sec CD AoE root. Fear. Invis. Pain Sup through stuns. You have a lot of tools to mitigate burst/switches.

[Nikita]

I`ll keep capping my shamans, to get fully geared in conquest gear. Just hoping our dmg will be enough to "global" people in a few months. Healing tide totem + astral shift + spamming healing surge with 4 shamans + my holy paladin popping his CDs is enough to survive the first burst wave, but after that they just train me to the ground. And even with full stacks on my lightning shield, combined with instant EB followed by LvB cant kill.

And I think its just BS that dispelling FS doesnt have any penalty, so the only DoT a ele shaman have is dispelled without any drawback. I`ve tried doing FS, to force a dispell, into hex. And I still cant kill someone within the window of the CC duration.

I saw a post from Nuvoz (one of the highest rated ele shaman in the world) concerning ele shamans viability in arena. And even he agrees that ele shamans are in a baaad state.

What goals do people have this expansion in arena? What comps are you playing?

[remanz]

I totally feel ya Nikita. my melees teams are still struggling. I don't really have a counter for massive AOE CC. I think arena overall is just lacking bad opponents for us to stomp on. The people who do play, they already have some what of a clue. That, combined with Hunter/Warrior/Mage/Warlock OPness. I have opted to focus more on solo arena with friends, which at this point do require equal amount of multi tasking if not more than boxing to play well.

My goal was to do reasonably well in arena in 5s. Settling down in 1800+ ratings. explore 2s and 3s boxed, no rating expectations there. Achieve 2000+ for solo arena with friends in any bracket.

[heyaz]

Well, I'll be bringing up my melee team next, I'm learning toward DKs first but may end up doing both teams of rets and DKs eventually. Goal wise, at the very least, I want to be able to play any size BG, even 10 man, and steamroll whatever I want, or at least not be a detriment to the team, which I unfortunately feel like when I bring 4 little shaman into anything.

2k viable in arena is important ultimately but as I said back before release when I noticed all the aoe cc that Any spec could now use, I didn't know if arena was going to be the thing anymore... at least not until normal people start playing normal comps in 5v5, which I'm not seeing now.

I haven't given up on the shaman and they'll stay capped and I'll mess around with them a bit more but... I've never been so disappointed upon hitting max level.

[Palee]

Guys if you want to global people, just play BGs. Arena is a constant source of frustration and negative feelings. And why does it matter how long it takes to get fully geared in conquest? Then next season comes and you have to do it again. This is a treadmill, it has no end.

[heyaz]

Guys if you want to global people, just play BGs. Arena is a constant source of frustration and negative feelings. And why does it matter how long it takes to get fully geared in conquest? Then next season comes and you have to do it again. This is a treadmill, it has no end.

Agree. Arena was an endless source of frustration even when shaman had a chance. When i got my shoulders in season 7 I quit arena for a few months. Went back to season 8 and got as high as I could but always went back to BGs and world pvp which is what I enjoy most.

Now, you can get fully geared just running BGs or capping out in arena no matter how lame the games are.

Problem is... shaman aren't exactly beasts in BGs either. In fact they're pretty sad.

Back to melee for me.... maybe

[remanz]

Melees are fine in BGs unless you face all hunters + mages. So for boxing 4 ranges, i would just go 4 BM Hunters or 4 Fire Mages now. Those 2 are definitely globing people.