Hi i need some help with a 10 box setup.Everything is greatly appreciated.

[Ualaa]

I'd suggest 1GB for the operating system, plus 1GB per account.
For ten boxing, I'd recommend 11GB or more, purely for Warcraft.

Ram is pretty cheap, 16GB would be plenty but 32GB or 64GB gets you extra if you want to mess around with ramdrives or whatever.




With DX9, a 2GB card is pretty close.
If you can get a card with more ram, that gets you some headroom.

If you want DX11, I'd recommend at least 3GB of video ram.

It will depend on your settings, too.
I don't think anyone is going to run 10 accounts on ultra.




The SSD is not essential, but you can pick one up fairly cheaply.
You don't need anything fancy, for a gaming folder; only if you were putting your OS on it.

It is optional, you don't need one.
It's just once you have enough ram, nothing else gets you as much of a return on investment.
It will make loading textures much quicker, which will greatly impact your play in main cities and to a lesser degree in places like Tol Barad/Wintergrasp.

[dazed1992]

Im also curious is there a better graphic card then the 670 that isnt like 200 dollars more then that one ?.

Sorry im really bad at computer components.

Thank you so much though so far for all the help as atleast i have a idea of what i have too do.

[Ualaa]

I went with a 4GB 670, which is showing as an extra $40.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130785

[dazed1992]

Oh nice, yea seems worth it for that extra ram.

[EaTCarbS]

12gb minimum in your system. any less and you will be strapped for RAM.

I also consider an SSD mandatory for that many clients. If not, you'll lag as shitstorm when you have to load everything 10 times (unless you've got a nice RAID)

Also, what do you hope to accomplish with 10 that couldn't be done with 5?

[Ualaa]

Prior to this summer, I had (and was 5-boxing smoothly):

Windows 7, Home Premium 64-bit.
850 Watt Corsair PSU.
i7-2600K (overclocked to 4.5GHz on air) [Corsair A70 cooler]
Asus P8Z68-V Pro motherboard, version 1.0
8GB of Mushkin DDR3, 1600MHz ram.
An eVGA GTX 570, 1GB.
OS Drive: OCZ Vertex 3, 120GB SSD.
Gaming Drive: Patriot Torq, 64GB SSD.

In anticipation of an increase in the minimum requirements, and a corresponding increase in requirements for "smooth with medium settings", I upgraded my system over the summer.

Going from an i7-2600K (4 Physical Cores/4 Logical Cores) system to an i7-3930K (6 Physical Cores/6 Logical Cores) was purely because I could... and would like to ten box at some point this expansion.
Quite a few people have 10-boxed on the i7-2600K in Cataclysm, and I believe on the i7-920/930 in WotLK.
I think the enjoyment will be higher on the 3930K, but that the 2600K would have worked.

The ram needed to increase from 8GB.
The video card needed more than 1GB of ram.

The rest of the system, likely would have worked.





Anyway, with a goal of 10-boxing, I went with:

Windows 7, Professional 64-bit.
1050 Watt Corsair PSU.
i7-3930K (stock speed, will likely overclock to ~4.0-4.5GHz) [Noctua NH-D14 cooler]
Asus Sabertooth X79 motherboard.
32GB of Corsair Vengeance (Low Profile), DDR3 1600MHz CL8 ram.
An eVGA GTX 670, 4GB Superclocked.
OS/Gaming Drive: 2x OCZ Vertex 3, 120GB's SSD (so approximately 240GB's), in Raid 0.

So far, I can 5-box smoothly at stock speed on Ultra settings, across the board.
There is no system lag anywhere.

Haven't tried more than 5 accounts yet.
Will likely use medium settings (except maximum view distance) on the main, maybe a little higher if everything else is smooth.
And then lower settings on the other regions, as low as I can go without greatly impacting the instant swap speed (which slows, as a greater number of settings need to change).

Not sure on what systems people are using to 10-box with.
But that can give you an idea of the direction I went; you could check the hardware forum to see what other people have gone with.

[remanz]

Prior to this summer, I had (and was 5-boxing smoothly):

Windows 7, Home Premium 64-bit.
850 Watt Corsair PSU.
i7-2600K (overclocked to 4.5GHz on air) [Corsair A70 cooler]
Asus P8Z68-V Pro motherboard, version 1.0
8GB of Mushkin DDR3, 1600MHz ram.
An eVGA GTX 570, 1GB.
OS Drive: OCZ Vertex 3, 120GB SSD.
Gaming Drive: Patriot Torq, 64GB SSD.

In anticipation of an increase in the minimum requirements, and a corresponding increase in requirements for "smooth with medium settings", I upgraded my system over the summer.

Going from an i7-2600K (4 Physical Cores/4 Logical Cores) system to an i7-3930K (6 Physical Cores/6 Logical Cores) was purely because I could... and would like to ten box at some point this expansion.
Quite a few people have 10-boxed on the i7-2600K in Cataclysm, and I believe on the i7-920/930 in WotLK.
I think the enjoyment will be higher on the 3930K, but that the 2600K would have worked.

The ram needed to increase from 8GB.
The video card needed more than 1GB of ram.

The rest of the system, likely would have worked.





Anyway, with a goal of 10-boxing, I went with:

Windows 7, Professional 64-bit.
1050 Watt Corsair PSU.
i7-3930K (stock speed, will likely overclock to ~4.0-4.5GHz) [Noctua NH-D14 cooler]
Asus Sabertooth X79 motherboard.
32GB of Corsair Vengeance (Low Profile), DDR3 1600MHz CL8 ram.
An eVGA GTX 670, 4GB Superclocked.
OS/Gaming Drive: 2x OCZ Vertex 3, 120GB's SSD (so approximately 240GB's), in Raid 0.

So far, I can 5-box smoothly at stock speed on Ultra settings, across the board.
There is no system lag anywhere.

Haven't tried more than 5 accounts yet.
Will likely use medium settings (except maximum view distance) on the main, maybe a little higher if everything else is smooth.
And then lower settings on the other regions, as low as I can go without greatly impacting the instant swap speed (which slows, as a greater number of settings need to change).

Not sure on what systems people are using to 10-box with.
But that can give you an idea of the direction I went; you could check the hardware forum to see what other people have gone with.

hm Ualaa I wonder how much have the hex core CPU helped in terms of the improvement you get. 570 GTX to 670 GTX probably didn't add much. My CPU is 3 generations behind now. And for new toons that I setup, it always default to directX 11 and I keep forgetting to change it to DirectX9. 5 Boxing in directX 11 is causing constant blue screen and locking up for me for some reason. I am thinking about upgrading. But Ivy bridge still doesn't have a hex core yet.

[MiRai]

5 Boxing in directX 11 is causing constant blue screen and locking up for me for some reason.

DX11 is probably putting too much stress on your card and you're most likely running out of video RAM.

I am thinking about upgrading. But Ivy bridge still doesn't have a hex core yet.

Consumer-level (non-extreme/xeon) Ivy Bridge will not have a 6-core chip nor will Haswell. It'll most likely be some time before we see the demand for a 6-core CPU from Intel that doesn't break the bank -- There's just no need for it in an everyday user/gamer environment.

[Ualaa]

The two bigger upgrades were... GTX 570 1GB to GTX 670 4GB.
And 4core/8threads to 6core/12threads, at about the same speed.
I also upgraded my internet today, but that wasn't a bottleneck; more for the combination of higher quality streaming + much faster downloads.

At the moment I'm running a physical core, and its logical core, per toon.
With the first core/logical core for windows, utorrent, firefox, xsplit and iTunes.

5 accounts, each on ultra, is smooth everywhere including Org.
That's with (the above programs open) including 14 firefox tabs and the xsplit stream.

[Lyonheart]

The two bigger upgrades were... GTX 570 1GB to GTX 670 4GB.
And 4core/8threads to 6core/12threads, at about the same speed.
I also upgraded my internet today, but that wasn't a bottleneck; more for the combination of higher quality streaming + much faster downloads.

At the moment I'm running a physical core, and its logical core, per toon.
With the first core/logical core for windows, utorrent, firefox, xsplit and iTunes.

5 accounts, each on ultra, is smooth everywhere including Org.
That's with (the above programs open) including 14 firefox tabs and the xsplit stream.

Is there a reason why using separate cores for each toon help on some PCs and not on others? When I dedicated the cores per slot on my last PC, it was a performance gain, on my newest one its a loss.. i have to have every slot use every core.