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    Quote Originally Posted by Kruschpakx4 View Post
    fully geared players have around 60% resilience
    Perfect pvp gear = about 40% total reduction of PVE damage after PVP power is taken into account.

    Theres a post discussing it on AJ/MMO-Champion.
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    well , the calculation already factored in pvp power. Then my assessment is off. So overall elementals' damage is weak. I tried to play 5s last night. getting 15+mins queues, nobody plays 5s anymore. So ended up queuing 3 at a time. and took all night to cap the points.

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    Did arenas with 4 ele shamans. Got my cap pretty darn quick. Im only at 1500 rating with like 13 wins and 7 loss. Overall the dmg from 4 shamans are okay, you cant global anyone, but with critts on insta EB with trinket + Earth shock + LvB on a purged target is almost a guaranteed kill

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikita View Post
    Did arenas with 4 ele shamans. Got my cap pretty darn quick. Im only at 1500 rating with like 13 wins and 7 loss. Overall the dmg from 4 shamans are okay, you cant global anyone, but with critts on insta EB with trinket + Earth shock + LvB on a purged target is almost a guaranteed kill
    No healer?

    And when/how did you figure Ascendance into the mix? Poke at them a bit then pop it, or wait till they bursted first then do it?

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    4 ele shamans + a high duelist paladin. Tbh, I hardly use Ascendance, I even forget to use that damn stormlash. Havent done 5v5 since s10, still getting used to ele shamans and 5v5. But one thing Im using like a baws is hex, WS and purge. Hoping to push 1800-1900 before next reset.

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    It goes, your dmg, multiplied by your pvp power, then reduced by their resil.

    Say you ahve 30% pvp power, they have 60% resil.

    An attack does 100 dmg normally, now it will do 130 dmg to the enemy. They reduce that by 60%, you do 52 damage.

    Your 30% pvp power doesn't cancel out 30% of their resil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by valkry View Post
    It goes, your dmg, multiplied by your pvp power, then reduced by their resil.

    Say you ahve 30% pvp power, they have 60% resil.

    An attack does 100 dmg normally, now it will do 130 dmg to the enemy. They reduce that by 60%, you do 52 damage.

    Your 30% pvp power doesn't cancel out 30% of their resil.
    This is correct. Except that pvp power doesn't really multiply your damage but rather increase it as in [normal damage + (normale damage * pvp power)].

    PVP power has no influence on resilience, and the other way around. PVP increases your dmg vs players, resilience reduces your damage taken from players.
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    I can tell you that it is not actually reduced by 60% of PVE damage in full s12. Essentially the % increased pvp damage from PVP Power makes it so that 57.8% resil is less than stated. Theres a graph and explanation here

    http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...silience-Guide

    Because of the linear scaling of PVP Power you can essentially increase your damage more than it is reduced. As you can see if you can manage to get 56.7% of your PVE damage vs someone in full s12 gear not completely gemmed for pvp power, and a warrior can effectively get 66.8% normal damage with t2 + full pvp power gems etc.

    PVP power scales linearly where as resil has diminishing returns.
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  9. #29

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    not sure about EU, but you guys actually get to play 5s at all ? on US servers. I can't get any match to pop at all.

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    2-4 min que in 5v5. Its the same as its allways been. Got heroic weapons on all shamans now. Sitting at 30% PvP power + 16k SP. Pushing higher this week, hopefully i'll hit 1900-2000 rating. Will post how it went

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