Quote Originally Posted by 'Shigan5',index.php?page=Thread&postID=47500#post4 7500
Im only answering the question here, no need to rip my headoff because everyone cant read. He asked a simple couple of questions. One of which asking if they even made 250 watt PSUs and what they were even used for. Thus i answered witht he email build. You dont always need a super humoungous PSU. Yeah if you want to blow the money to make your computer sound better, than whatever but most people dont, they want what they need for what they need it for. And thus the reason for having 250 PSUs, cause not everyone in this world games.

Okay, do they not make 250 Watt power supplies because even the most minimalist PC needs more then that, or because they feel their's no profit margion for PSU's that 'small'? Do PSU's that small have problems with stability? Do modern PC's draw more power then that naturally? What is it? Why is it you need more then 250Watts? Tell me more then just "I say so".
and as for the whole argument of
not enough for a system to run WoW decently.
he didnt ask that as you can see from the quote above. THOSE are the questions im answering, not answering the whole thread, which if you read page 1, I already did.

And yes crap PSUs dont work very well, just like everything else on this planet. But you buy the PSU for what you are going to use it for. You want a performance computer, you want a performance PSU. You want a basic non performance computer, nothing more, you dont need a performance PSU. Thats why they make cheaper PSUs, not everyone who uses computers in this world use them for gaming. Some just like email and chat.

As ive explained before, wattage isnt everything in a PSU. "Oh i have 400 watts and doing all the math thats all I need" your wrong. Check the amps on your 12v rail. Not enough amps, not enough power, causing your PSU to either fail, or work too hard and blow.

And if you say "Oh i have 2 12v rails, i get to add the amps together" Err, wrong again. Check which cables are coming from which rail, you plug everything into one rail, your still only getting the amps from that rail, split them between the two, then you go by how many amps each component takes and see if you have enough.
It was not my intention to rip your head off (or to sound like I wanted to) sorry. And most of my reply was not directed at you I just quoted your post to give myself a refference point when typing because you quoted some of the people I was replying to. Its just that people arguing over cheap/low-quality Vs larger/good quality PSUs is a big pet peeve of mine. And the reason I said tyo remove all talk of these gimp machines from the thread is because they are irrelevent to the OPs questions because they are not a gaming machine. The fact that yes, there exists a machine that can run on a 250W PSU (heck I have an emulator PC that runs on a 135W) it does not at all help the OP and if anything could confuse him more. Many people underestimate video card power usage. For atleast over the last year or more a high end gfraphics card has been the most power hungry device in an entire system (sometimes even more than everything else combined). Again my response was to keep with the original question of this thread and try to not muddy the waters with points that have no bearing on what the OP was trying to do. And to avoid having this draw out anymore Ill just reply to your very last statement a bit. This is kind of amusing (you are correct btw) but you should compare the 12v rails of a generic PSU Vs a quality one of similar wattage. Most of the time the quality one has much better (and more stable rails) which is smply why for the people that dont know all that much about computers the statement "dont buy cheap-ass generic PSUs for a gaming rg" generally points them in the right direction without confusing them without doing various bits of math on wattage and seperate voltage rails. Anyways, peace bro :thumbup: