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[Fat Tire]

PvP

• Yes. We'd like to do make queuing for random bgs better by ensuring some semblance of healer balance between alliance/horde. For example, having no healer on your 15 person team when the opponents have 3 can have a huge impact on your team's chance of success. Also, we're considering more aggressively separating players with entry-level gear from everyone else (unless they're grouped with a player with non entry-level gear).

Curious how this would affect boxers, specifically the ones who box 4 or more.

[valkry]

PvP

• Blizzard would like to make queuing for random bgs better by ensuring some semblance of healer balance between Alliance/Horde.

Curious how this would affect boxers, specifically the ones who box 4 or more.

So if I queue as 8x healers to a wsg, horde will get 8x healers as well? Then I quickly switch to ele right before the game starts. Sure it will take ages to kill them, but they will never kill me lawl

[Fat Tire]

I updated the actual quote as the one I first quoted was an excerpt. Valkry - I am sure blizzard wouldnt make it so anybody could just bypass the system otherwise hybrids would just get instant queues.

[heyaz]

I don't think it will prevent a group from getting into a BG; if anything I think this will benefit those 4-5 boxing in randoms since you're more likely to actually get healers from other 5. Nothing is more irritating than a 10-15 man group of which you are 1/2 or 1/3 where there are nothing but drooling DPS idiots to follow you around and not help.

[valkry]

I don't think it will prevent a group from getting into a BG; if anything I think this will benefit those 4-5 boxing in randoms since you're more likely to actually get healers from other 5. Nothing is more irritating than a 10-15 man group of which you are 1/2 or 1/3 where there are nothing but drooling DPS idiots to follow you around and not help.

Aint nothing like a healer to solo guard a flag from 3 dps until help arrives 2 mins later... if it's even needed :P

[Shodokan]

Aint nothing like a healer to solo guard a flag from 3 dps until help arrives 2 mins later... if it's even needed :P

Unless those 3 dps are dks... that chain silences, deathgrips :P

[zenga]

Exploit for goblins: queue up with your good gear in the bank and greens equipped. Enter bg with fellow noobs, pop the bank dude, equip good gear, have fun.

Wanna bet this will be possible when this will go live?

[Lyonheart]

If that ever becomes a true concern, I'm sure the will make it so you cant pop bankers in BGs.

[zenga]

The random bg gear gap is not a big problem during the start of an expansion, much more after a patch. If you are a freshly dinged lvl 85 with 320 item level, you'll meet people in 400+ gear who can do 3,4 & 5x your damage, and have much more durability. If I ding an alt I want to learn how to play it in random bg's once I have all my spells available. Now you just need to eat shit for 2 weeks till you are geared, and then you can start to farm. There is no scaling.

A separate queue for lower geared people is a bad idea. It will be twinked, just like anything in the game.

A much better solution is an ilvl scaling buff like they do with dungeons on the ptr. If 371 is the ilvl from last season honor gear, 390 is the honor ilvl from the current season, and 403 the ilvl for the current conquest gear, make it so that if a quest green geared player joins a random bg he/she will have 371 stats. The player can actually start immediately to play/learn his character, and if someone takes a break for a patch he/she isn't way behind.

[MiRai]

The random bg gear gap is not a big problem during the start of an expansion, much more after a patch. If you are a freshly dinged lvl 85 with 320 item level, you'll meet people in 400+ gear who can do 3,4 & 5x your damage, and have much more durability. If I ding an alt I want to learn how to play it in random bg's once I have all my spells available. Now you just need to eat shit for 2 weeks till you are geared, and then you can start to farm. There is no scaling.

A separate queue for lower geared people is a bad idea. It will be twinked, just like anything in the game.

A much better solution is an ilvl scaling buff like they do with dungeons on the ptr. If 371 is the ilvl from last season honor gear, 390 is the honor ilvl from the current season, and 403 the ilvl for the current conquest gear, make it so that if a quest green geared player joins a random bg he/she will have 371 stats. The player can actually start immediately to play/learn his character, and if someone takes a break for a patch he/she isn't way behind.

Is it too much to ask someone who wants to PvP to get the crafted set?