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[heyaz]

As far as not getting group credit - just get through Jade Forest and it gets better. I don't know why that zone is the way it is; it wasn't until the last two areas that group credit started working. In four winds it is working on nearly all of the quests.

It's feels totally arbitrary, Jade Forest is not only anti-multiboxing but anti-group in general. No group credit for anything and totally inconsistent mob/item spawning. Some phases/areas clearly weren't spawning enough of anything to support the number of players there.

Then I get to four winds and at the fish/honeycomb collection area things start spawning like crazy when I bring 5 extra toons there.

I blew a good 10 hours in Jade Forest, wasting time trying to find a better quest, grind, or whatever, when it's faster to just tough it out and do the quests in order. In 4 winds I'm already 25% to 87 in no time at all and it's been a breeze.

[remanz]

So for fresh 85 teams, we should do quest in Jade Forest up to the i372 vendor to buy gears. Then queue up for random dungeon, farm until 86. Then hit up four winds. Get to 87. Then queue random dungeon again to 88. Now hit up townlong steppes first town to buy i393 gears to queue random again. Grind to 90.

sounds like a good plan.

My first team, i wasted so much time on collection quests already. My 2nd team i will try to do the above

[moosejaw]

As far as not getting group credit - just get through Jade Forest and it gets better. I don't know why that zone is the way it is; it wasn't until the last two areas that group credit started working. In four winds it is working on nearly all of the quests.

It's feels totally arbitrary, Jade Forest is not only anti-multiboxing but anti-group in general. No group credit for anything and totally inconsistent mob/item spawning. Some phases/areas clearly weren't spawning enough of anything to support the number of players there.

Then I get to four winds and at the fish/honeycomb collection area things start spawning like crazy when I bring 5 extra toons there.

I blew a good 10 hours in Jade Forest, wasting time trying to find a better quest, grind, or whatever, when it's faster to just tough it out and do the quests in order. In 4 winds I'm already 25% to 87 in no time at all and it's been a breeze.

I have been out of Jade Forest for a while and this crap still persists. It isn't just Jade Forest. Thank the gods that Hemet's quests where simple kill quests.

Edit: Another thing. When I go to my farm to plant seeds my 5 man group gets put into 3 different phases. Not a huge deal but I have to run them in and out of the phase manually to do the quests/pick veggies etc.

[crowdx]

So for fresh 85 teams, we should do quest in Jade Forest up to the i372 vendor to buy gears. Then queue up for random dungeon, farm until 86. Then hit up four winds. Get to 87. Then queue random dungeon again to 88. Now hit up townlong steppes first town to buy i393 gears to queue random again. Grind to 90.

sounds like a good plan.

My first team, i wasted so much time on collection quests already. My 2nd team i will try to do the above

No need to quest to the town, just jump off the airship and then mount up and follow the road north till you get to the town, it is not phased etc.

[remanz]

Great. skip Jade forest entirely, I don't like monkeys anyway

[heyaz]

Edit: Another thing. When I go to my farm to plant seeds my 5 man group gets put into 3 different phases. Not a huge deal but I have to run them in and out of the phase manually to do the quests/pick veggies etc.

Oh yeah.. just dealt with this crap. I was in 4 different phases. I did the whole chain five times. It was fast enough anyway (run 2 feet, touch the ground, get 140k xp) so I just dealt with it.

[moosejaw]

Blizz seems to be getting on top of the bugs.

There is constant monitoring of the bug report forum and some very quick fixes being made.

[JohnGabriel]

Blizz seems to be getting on top of the bugs.

There is constant monitoring of the bug report forum and some very quick fixes being made.

Blizzard has done a wonderful job with the bugs this expansion. Love or hate the content, but they really got their act together for release this year.

[Khatovar]

Edit: Another thing. When I go to my farm to plant seeds my 5 man group gets put into 3 different phases. Not a huge deal but I have to run them in and out of the phase manually to do the quests/pick veggies etc.

I make use of target and IWT to deal with the phasing. I might make some macros for it, but for now I just broadcast to all as needed -

/tar Farmer Yoon + IWT to enter the phase
/tar Untilled Soil + IWT
/tar Andi + IWT to leave {sorta, still have to use my move all forward to pop the rest of the way}

[heyaz]

four winds starting getting jade forest like after several areas. every time I went to pick up a quest, 1 was pick up 35 million things off the ground, another was rescue a guy or give this guy a heal, again NO group credit. I got within 5 bars of 87 and just did the brewery run several times.

Now, off to Kun-laj Summit. I'm getting a few extra bars doing WSG runs, maybe get a 25% head start. Ascendance is just awesome. Pop that and SWG and blow up flag carriers in 5 seconds, ignore their healers. Unfortunately there's a beast 89 warrior (or three) in every game and my guys are still pretty squishy. But ascendance is just... the coolest thing I've seen in awhile