How many heroics is MOP launching with, the trend of the last two expansions is discouraging:

BC Launched with 15 (added 1 later)
Wrath Launched with 12 (added 4 later)
Cata Launched with 9 (added 5 later)

"For me it was the bosses in cata that were the road blocks and still are the hardest part. With p pal + 4 e shams I could cc to the max trash packs."

Yeah but if it takes you half an hour just to get to a boss how excited are you going to be to do it each day until you can beat that boss?

I'm definitely on the TRASH WAS TOO DAMN HARD wagon. (I mean ZA... WTF were they thinking... oh yeah I remember it was "we're too lazy to release a real patch so we're going to just over tune these two 5 mans to let you do 5 man "progression").