Tankadin Plus 4 Shammies still good for PvE ?

[Cptan]

I couldn't do ZA/ZG but the Cata heroics I just run through, no deaths, no issues, just plain easy farming. The OP was talking about 5-mans.

This is news to me. Maybe you are overgeared for cata heroics.

(has heroic Deadmines been successfully 5-boxed?)

Yes of course, nowhere near cata released, but before 4.2, if memory serves.

[confusedtx5]

pallyshams are now my fav team since trying it. chain lightning destroys trash. rshams earth shield combined with simple, strong heal mechanics, makes heals easy for me to control, while tanking mobs.
pally and shammy buffs currently work well together, but lots of stuff being moved around in pandaland.

And definitely agree with MiRai as well. Start of cata, I had no chance in heroics. Only ever managed to get 1 boss down in H VoA. I STILL haven't cleared any heroics, but with the hour of twilight 5-mans, its mostly from lack of trying.
I'm expecting (taking into account Ghostcrawlers explanation of Heroic dungeon difficulties) Pandaland 5-mans to be between wotlk and cata difficulty levels

[zenga]

It might even be possible (in my mind I even labelled it 'very likely') to play 1 pally + 4 ele again, i.e. run without a healer, as shamans have now some incredible off healing tools, definitely when stacked.

[Esca]

Thanks for all the replies. How do the MoP dungeons look for those of you in the Beta? Do they seem pretty boxable?

[Multibocks]

I have beta access and from what I have seen there is a lot of movement and precise positioning. I dont think this will work out for boxers. Until gear outlevels the content we will be sitting around or doing PVP. I did hear that druids and monks can use PvP gear effectively in PvE though, but I haven't tested it myself

[Knytestorme]

I have beta access and from what I have seen there is a lot of movement and precise positioning. I dont think this will work out for boxers. Until gear outlevels the content we will be sitting around or doing PVP. I did hear that druids and monks can use PvP gear effectively in PvE though, but I haven't tested it myself

Now that the four leveling dungeons can all be done from 85-90 I can see us using Jade Serpent to level all the way to 90 once people work out how to kill Wise Mari since all the other fights should be easily boxable in there.

I've seen vids of a single ret paladin soloing Mari so I think it should be doable, even if it means all other chars in the team dying and just focus on one char soloing her. I also was thinking (but haven't tested) that if it's possible to run through Mari without taking damage that you just sit your team on one side and nuke down, as the water comes round run through, spin round and nuke, repeating as needed.

The Anger/Strife or Sunspot fight on the oither side should be easily boxable, pretty much no movement needed. Lui should be easily doable with minimal movement needed up till phase 2 then just pop hero/bloodlust and burn the dragon....Sha of Anger again is no movement apart from bringing your group in togehter in phase 2 for the add burn.

I'll be doing either 5 x Pal or Pal + 4 x Shaman for my first leveling team and am fairly certain I'll level through quests to 86 for the new gear and then just chain run Jade Serpent to 90 if I can work out how to do Mari.

[Knytestorme]

Also just noticed that atm on beta you can queue for cata heroics up to level 87 so that should also be a fast leveling method for people that already have them on farm. Do some of Jade Forest for initial upgrades then back to farming cata to 88 before heading back to MoP. Will also allow you to leave at least one MoP zone undone before max level to give extra gold farming.

[MiRai]

Also just noticed that atm on beta you can queue for cata heroics up to level 87 so that should also be a fast leveling method for people that already have them on farm. Do some of Jade Forest for initial upgrades then back to farming cata to 88 before heading back to MoP. Will also allow you to leave at least one MoP zone undone before max level to give extra gold farming.

Probably not a good idea...

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1253376893

[Khatovar]

Probably not a good idea...

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1253376893

Couldn't agree with MiRai more. I saw those massive XP drops when I was doing my little "leveling without touching Cata content" experiment. It was really painful to watch the XP peter out to nothing like that.

[Knytestorme]

Probably not a good idea...

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1253376893

ahhh yes, had forgotten about them making that change for LK...that's annoying but still I think chain running Jade Serpent should be more than doable from 86-90 and then go quest the rest of the zones