Profession, Gold Making - Alchemy? Help please

[crowdx]

As a side note, on my realm (Uther Alliance) volatile air prices have crashed from 23g dow to as little as 12g. Competition seems fierce, I think there maybe a couple of other boxers selling on this realm which is also driving the price down. Volatile life has been as low as 3.75g but with competition and undercutting volatile air does not always sell unless you get into a undercutting war

[roddo]

stormrage volatile air is 16-17g, and i grabbed a few hundred at 4 gold per life, so making around 13g per air. My problem is i only have 1 alchemist atm.

[JohnGabriel]

stormrage volatile air is 16-17g, and i grabbed a few hundred at 4 gold per life, so making around 13g per air. My problem is i only have 1 alchemist atm.

I am getting 8-9g for volatile air and buying volatile life for 3-4g. They sell, just slowly, currently have over 1000 air in my bags.

The horde prices are much higher, but they dont sell at all. I have started thinking about moving them to my alliance bank.

[Ualaa]

If you really want to make gold, the absolute top method is going to be server & faction arbitrage.

Basically check out the Undermine Journal.
You're looking for something that sells for both a higher price and a higher volume on one server/faction and sells for a lower price but still high volume on another server/faction.

Once you find that...
Transfer a toon with gold to the buying server and/or faction.
Buy a bunch of them, as much as you can afford.

Transfer to the selling server and/or faction.
And unload them over several days.

You could go with more than one mule character.

This is essentially Blizzard legal, purchasing gold with real money.
Similar to buying the mounts/pets and then selling in game.

[roddo]

curious as to how much the mounts and pets sell for in game.

[kate]

My experience with gold making was that having an army of transmuters was an OK way to get a little cash (not much for the effort) or to have a way to mass produce stuff that required the products of transmutation, but I didn't really find it as beneficial as just playing off of having at least one of every profession maxxed out and taking advantages of opportunities as they come up.

In Cata, for example, I made a stupidly large amount of money and all it required was having:

- 1 max level enchanter
- 1 max level jewelcrafter
- 1 max level alchemist

I would buy ore off the AH and prospect it for gems. I would then cut and sell gems that, when cut, sold for more than whatever else I could make from them, and that would sell FAST (this was pretty much all the red or red-hybrid gems). Then I would make all the rest of the gems that could be made into jewelry to be sold or disenchanted, and then I would either make enchants or sell the enchanting mats if that was more profitable.

At first it was a bit slow - I couldn't afford much ore, but as ore became cheaper and I had more money I was able to continually grow my bankroll and continually buy and make more stuff. At first I was buying maybe 10-20 stacks of ore a day, but by the time I really got rolling I had an arrangement with multiple farmers to buy any amount of ore they would send me and between that and the AH I was going through hundreds of stacks of ore every day, to the point where just prospecting, crafting and disenchanting took multiple hours some times.

On a slow day I'd make maybe 5-10k in profit, and on a fast day (like the first week or so after 4.3 hit) I was making over 100k a day in profit for a few hours effort. I know some other people who were really ruthless about squeezing every copper out of the process were making more than that, but I just wasn't willing to obsess over checking the AH and relisting constantly.

Because everything I was selling was basically a commodity item, things would sell fast even when there was a minor undercut. Since enchanting mats don't have any listing fees it didn't matter if I got massively undercut - as long as the price was above the point where I needed it to be to make a profit I would just post more whenever enough people had lower prices than me. On gems I would price at the middle of the market and because they go so fast even if people undercut me I would still sell quickly.

You can do this kind of thing as a multi or single boxer - you really don't need to have an assembly line of multiple characters getting the same professions, except maybe jewlcrafting or any profession where you have to do dailies to get tokens for recipes and you want to be able to get all the cuts fast, but that really only matters for the initial gold rush and towards the end it isn't that big a deal.

If you don't want to do that, just wait for the AoE looting and clearing dungeons. You'll make ridiculous amounts of gold just off drops and vendor trash without even having to bother playing on the AH.

[Lyonheart]

If you don't want to do that, just wait for the AoE looting and clearing dungeons. You'll make ridiculous amounts of gold just off drops and vendor trash without even having to bother playing on the AH.

This is my preferred way to make cash. I think focusing on making gold causes burn out to happen faster. I just play, run instances.. do some dailies, and farm the mats i need while I'm dungeon clearing or questing. The only time i ever spend time farming is mining and herbing on my druid. But i only do it a few times a month for several hours.

I started to make an army of alchs.. but think ill put them on hold. I do have one of everything maxed though. ( and will again in MoP ) I sooo look forward to ae looting 8) us MBs have an advantage there for sure 8)

[Ualaa]

Boxing is still going to be faster than non-boxing.

Take prospecting your ore.
If you have 200 stacks of our, a full 5-box group will prospect that in the time that a solo boxer would prospect 40 stacks.

You can do the whole spectrum of skills.
A couple of Scribes to make glyphs and/or decks.
A leatherworker, blacksmith, enchanter, etc...

Really, you'd only need one at maximum level...
Although multiples is faster acquisition of recipes, if its like Jewelcrafting in WotLK...
Or quicker prospecting...

You only need to stack something, if you want multiple transmutes or whatever.

[kate]

Just to try it, I will see if I can level my Druid entirely from 85-90 just through farming sessions since its actually kind of soothing with a combo of gatherer and farmhud. Not an efficient use of time but eh, why not mess with it

[JohnGabriel]

If you really want to make gold, the absolute top method is going to be server & faction arbitrage.

Basically check out the Undermine Journal.
You're looking for something that sells for both a higher price and a higher volume on one server/faction and sells for a lower price but still high volume on another server/faction.

Once you find that...
Transfer a toon with gold to the buying server and/or faction.
Buy a bunch of them, as much as you can afford.

Transfer to the selling server and/or faction.
And unload them over several days.

You could go with more than one mule character.

This is essentially Blizzard legal, purchasing gold with real money.
Similar to buying the mounts/pets and then selling in game.

I thought about that but there are gold limits, think its 50,000 for a level 85. Once I made the gold and wanted to get it back to my main bank, wouldn't be able to bring it all.

The only way I could think of would be if the selling server was the one my main was on. You could transfer a toon to the buying server, but again only with 50,000 gold so unless there is also alot of stuff to sell on the buying server, it seems limited to 50,000 gold for $50 in blizzard fees. $1 per 1000 gold.