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    A self-reply in case anyone else was interested:
    Lax told me in the chat that what I want to do is perfectly OK. Woot!

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    This is a relatively common question based on a flawed interpretation of something a GM was trying to explain a while back about the difference between botting and not botting.

    What it boils down to is that spamming more than one key at the same time is not automation and doesn't make you a bot, any more than spamming one key. The game will prevent too many things from happening at once, e.g. via the global cooldown. It's perfectly fine to do this.

    On the other hand if the question was "can I press a button and have it press 1, wait a sec, then press 2, wait a sec, then press 3, wait a sec, then press 4, wait a sec, then press 5" the answer is no, this would not be allowed. This would be called auto-fire or auto-repeat, etc. Note that pretty much any programmable keyboard, including officially licensed ones, have and even promote this kind of functionality. For example... Steel Series Cataclysm keyboard! http://steelseries.com/products/game...hift-cataclysm Licensed, approved, and even sold at BlizzCon in the Steel Series booth (when BlizzCon exists). Right side of the page under Steel Series Engine... "3. Record a sequence of actions, with delays included, and map them all to a single key"

    So, FYI, if you or any multiboxer gets harassed about this kind of functionality, you have every right to use it. If you don't, then neither do Steel Series and Blizzard have the right to promote it with a Blizzard-licensed Steel Series keyboard.
    Lax
    Author of ISBoxer
    Video: ISBoxer Quick Start

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lax View Post

    So, FYI, if you or any multiboxer gets harassed about this kind of functionality, you have every right to use it. If you don't, then neither do Steel Series and Blizzard have the right to promote it with a Blizzard-licensed Steel Series keyboard.
    That logic is kinda flawed: none buys a keyboard just for the single purpose of playing wow. The fact that it offers extra features that can be used for other things besides WoW, doesn't legitimate the use of those features within wow - provided they are illegal. What you are basically implying is that Steelseries should make a keyboard which can't be used outside of wow, shipping with software that has limited functionality, and thus sell a keyboard that is subpar compared to the functionality competitors offer.

    Or to use an absurd example: my local government provides cheap pruning shears (hand pruners in US I believe) for fuck knows what reason. The fact that you can cut off ones dick with it doesn't make it legal to do so.
    Everything that is fun in life is either bad for your health, immoral or illegal!

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    Quote Originally Posted by zenga View Post
    That logic is kinda flawed: none buys a keyboard just for the single purpose of playing wow. The fact that it offers extra features that can be used for other things besides WoW, doesn't legitimate the use of those features within wow - provided they are illegal. What you are basically implying is that Steelseries should make a keyboard which can't be used outside of wow, shipping with software that has limited functionality, and thus sell a keyboard that is subpar compared to the functionality competitors offer.

    Or to use an absurd example: my local government provides cheap pruning shears (hand pruners in US I believe) for fuck knows what reason. The fact that you can cut off ones dick with it doesn't make it legal to do so.
    I think what Lax was getting at was that Blizzard is explicitly promoting this keyboard for use with WoW, a key feature of which is the ability to do these kinds of things. Why would they advertise a device and specifically cite certain features as reasons to buy it, but then punish people who actually use those features?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zenga View Post
    That logic is kinda flawed: none buys a keyboard just for the single purpose of playing wow. The fact that it offers extra features that can be used for other things besides WoW, doesn't legitimate the use of those features within wow - provided they are illegal. What you are basically implying is that Steelseries should make a keyboard which can't be used outside of wow, shipping with software that has limited functionality, and thus sell a keyboard that is subpar compared to the functionality competitors offer.

    Or to use an absurd example: my local government provides cheap pruning shears (hand pruners in US I believe) for fuck knows what reason. The fact that you can cut off ones dick with it doesn't make it legal to do so.
    No.. what I am saying is that keyboard is specifically licensed for use with WoW, promoted for use with WoW, Blizzard will even help sell it to you, and this is one of the features prominently advertised without even a hint that it could possibly get you in any trouble. In fact, by looking at the advertisement (e.g. the linked page), any normal person would be absolutely convinced that this feature is both designed for, and okay with, World of Warcraft. (I'd wager, in fact, that more people use those keyboards and those features than people around here realize...) The same goes for other games as well.

    Your analogy is flawed because the pruning shears are not being sold with a label that says "chop off your dick with our dick chopper offer". It's sold as pruning shears. The keyboard is promoted as a tool specifically to gain advantages in the game, and that's exactly why Joe Shmoe would buy this keyboard.

    They can not legally promote the use of this tool in the game while simultaneously banning you for using it as advertised, and they also have to its treat competitors fairly.

    The feature set isn't available in ISBoxer (or planned) anyway.




    I hadn't realized until that point that ISBoxer was sending exactly the same information and in exactly the same way and at exactly the same time as my keyboard if I were to have it send multiple keys in one step - for some reason I imagined it might be sending a stream of keystrokes, so it might have been as if someone were very quickly changing the modifier keys they were holding down while spamming [ or something like that. Possibly silly, but I try not to take things like that for granted. Better to ask and learn something than just assume and remain in ignorance, I say.
    HOWTO Configure ISBoxer like a Pro: DPS Rotation has some tips on different ways to split that up
    Lax
    Author of ISBoxer
    Video: ISBoxer Quick Start

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