Arena are now ruined for boxers.

[Kruschpakx4]

ok we have an own thread for this /copy

I'm sure many warriors would rather use avatar/safeguard instead of shockwave/mass spell reflection, same goes to warlocks as I dont see why anyone should use shadowfury instead of onr of the other 2 talents, I would also assume that some dks would choose descerated ground over remorseless winter ... guess you know how that list continues

now whats in for me? hm I see warrior/lock/mage/double heal and I assume they will all use their aoe abilities to keep me as long as possible cc'd while they are going to kill my healer ... well ... oh there are no talents that could improve my chances of winning

in fact is doesnt really matter if I play against a melee or caster team there is nothing essential I could change (shaman perspective)

maybe it helps you as a dk boxer but its utterly shit for shamans

[Shodokan]

ok we have an own thread for this /copy

I'm sure many warriors would rather use avatar/safeguard instead of shockwave/mass spell reflection, same goes to warlocks as I dont see why anyone should use shadowfury instead of onr of the other 2 talents, I would also assume that some dks would choose descerated ground over remorseless winter ... guess you know how that list continues

now whats in for me? hm I see warrior/lock/mage/double heal and I assume they will all use their aoe abilities to keep me as long as possible cc'd while they are going to kill my healer ... well ... oh there are no talents that could improve my chances of winning

in fact is doesnt really matter if I play against a melee or caster team there is nothing essential I could change (shaman perspective)

maybe it helps you as a dk boxer but its utterly shit for shamans

DKs are actually squishier in general than shaman after you blow your "oh shit" buttons. I guess the fact that we have an o-shit button matters. But if you are staggering your grounding totems it shouldn't be super difficult to deal with some of the up front AOE CC. Lots of the AOE cc is on DR though so you might get hit with 2-3 things after your grounding rotation is done. You can also trinket them and a good majority of them are 1-2 min cooldowns (shockwave is an exception).

[Kruschpakx4]

You can also trinket them and a good majority of them are 1-2 min cooldowns (shockwave is an exception).

afaik ring of frost and shadowfury are 30 sec cd, disrupting shout 45 sec (http://us.battle.net/wow/en/game/mis...t-calculator#e!) although I'm not sure if those numbers are still accurate I'm not up to date regarding the beta, I know most of them share dr but since the cooldown is that low it doesnt really matter because everything is ready again once dr is resetted

and so far grounding doesnt absorb aoe effects

And I'm not sure if blizz is going to change that as its logical to implement more aoe cc because of RBG

[Shodokan]

afaik ring of frost and shadowfury are 30 sec cd, disrupting shout 45 sec (http://us.battle.net/wow/en/game/mis...t-calculator#e!) although I'm not sure if those numbers are still accurate I'm not up to date regarding the beta, I know most of them share dr but since the cooldown is that low it doesnt really matter because everything is ready again once dr is resetted

and so far grounding doesnt absorb aoe effects

And I'm not sure if blizz is going to change that as its logical to implement more aoe cc because of RBG

They might, as they are pushing for MLG to take WoW under their banner again with MoP.

Also warriors in 5's will use those abilities you listed as they are just too strong against multiple targets.

[Fat Tire]

afaik ring of frost and shadowfury are 30 sec cd, disrupting shout 45 sec (http://us.battle.net/wow/en/game/mis...t-calculator#e!) although I'm not sure if those numbers are still accurate I'm not up to date regarding the beta, I know most of them share dr but since the cooldown is that low it doesnt really matter because everything is ready again once dr is resetted

and so far grounding doesnt absorb aoe effects

And I'm not sure if blizz is going to change that as its logical to implement more aoe cc because of RBG

You know what is cool that I like alot is ring is 30sec cd and has a cast time 1.5 sec or something but it doesnt take time to build up like on live, its instant. Its pretty fun.