MoP Beta - Elemental Shaman in Action!

[Lyonheart]

a crt gives u a 100% ins cast LvB.

So we back into Wotlk days You see five FS on you your know something bad is about to happen runaway little girl comes to mind here.[/QUOTE]

I don't think he meant that.. i think he meant 100% crit. LvB crits making LvB instant cast wouldn't make any sense. Every single LvB should crit, since all you need is flame shock..

LOL.. he did not say lvlb crit gives a lvlb .. he said a CRIT will give a 100% INSTA CAST lvlb. I know his english is not perfect, but i am sure i understand what he meant. I think he is talking about lava surge crits are 100% instead of having a "chance" ( like it is now )to give a free lava burst. ( from flame shock ticks )

edit:looking at lava surge tooltip( live in beta atm ), it still says flame shock ticks have a 'chance", so not sure what he means now.. i can see in his screenshot that he had just had a lava surge.

[zenga]

Sorry but this confuses the living shit out of me. I'll try to explain how it works:

- if flame shock IS NOT on the target, lava burst is a normal spell (it can crit or not crit, and it can overload or not)
- if flame shock IS on the target, lava burst is a guaranteed crit, and all elemental spells crit for 250% (instead of 200%) thanks to elemental fury
- each flame shock tick has a 20% chance to proc lava surge, which resets the cooldown of your lava burst
- if lava surge procs, your next lava burst will become an instant cast (exactly like the 4p set bonus in firelands did)
- if mastery procs, (overload), it will be a guaranteed crit if flame shock is on the target, but it deals only 75% of the damage (so 3/4 of 250% = 187.5%)
- if you take echo of the elements, both your lava burst and your overload can be copied, so 1 lava burst can result in maximum 4 lava bursts, last math I saw was around 9-10% chance for echo of the elements to proc

[Lyonheart]

yea i understand all that. I was just replying to his comment which specifically states " a crit gives u a ins cast LvB", and was just looking for clarification if that was a mistaken statement or something that changed ..maybe via a glyph or something. It did sound a tad OP.

[zenga]

" a crit gives u a ins cast LvB", and was just looking for clarification

tried to read that line several times, and I really can't figure it out

[ebony]

ya sorry the tooltip on lava surge reads as u said here but on beta when i tryed on beta i was FS > Lbv > lava surge would proc 100%. and even then it keep going and going and going. think i had like 6 in a row all crits (might be a bug with numbers) but in beta there just silly. ill roll some shammys out this week on beta anyway.

[Lyonheart]

tried to read that line several times, and I really can't figure it out

Let me help you with my magic translator "a crit(ical) gives (yo)u a(n) ins(tant) cast LvB" (LvB=lava burst )


edit: just messing around btw.. i know your not that dumb!

[zenga]

hahaha I honestly didn't figure out the ins = instant part, afterwards it's pretty stupid on my end of course. But now after what ebony said about the 100% lava surge proc I understand the reasoning. I can't imagine that being intended though (I am pretty involved in the theory crafting scene for ele and follow pretty much every new post about it, without reading a single thing).