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    Get an Intel. Period.

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    its easy u got the money go Intel if not then go AMD like me. i have not many probs but a lot are intel fan boys :P
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    I don't think I'm being a fan boy if Intel CPUs are clearly faster than AMD (at least right now, with current generations).
    Sure, AMD is cheaper, but also significantly slower.
    If AMD were faster, I'd be recommending them. (and I have in the past, when they used to be competitive speed-wise)
    As for cost, if you're going to spend the money on a machine that is capable of multiboxing (especially 5), I don't think an extra $100 (or so) for an Intel CPU is going to break your bank.
    In fact, I'd advise cutting costs in other areas to get an Intel, if cost is really an issue.

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    For the longest time, I was always going with AMD.
    Back then, at equal cost the AMD was faster... or at equal speeds, the AMD was cheaper.

    When intel came out with the Core 2 Quad, my Q6600...
    That was clearly superior to anything AMD had, and I switched to an Intel product.

    When it came time to upgrade, the i7 920 was a lot more powerful than anything AMD offered.

    A few years later, the second generation i3's, i5's and i7's were still far more powerful than anything AMD had.
    So I've gone with Intel again.

    If at some point in the future AMD has the superior product, or a similar product at a much lower price...
    And I'm in the market to upgrade, I'd go back to AMD without any qualms.
    I was very happy with AMD for four or five systems in a row.
    But am also quite happy with Intel for the last three systems.
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    Ok, has anyone actually tested the 8150/8120 in a multiboxing environment? I've read all the reviews out there and I have to admit bulldozer is a disappointment based on multiple articles from popular sites. BUT, has anyone (a multiboxer) actually tried and properly tested it yet??

    A little background. I've been multiboxing WoW for the past 3 months. My setup:
    Intel Q6600 C2Quad CPU mildly OCed to 2.85Ghz
    2x MSI GTX460 768MB in SLI - SurroundView mode (3x22" LCD screens)
    8GB DDR2-800
    2x 320GB 7200RPM HDDs in Raid-0

    WoW clients: 5 (warrior, priest, druid, and two mages) - CPU Affinity per client enabled, two mages sharing one core, the 3 other toons assigned to one core each (Q6600 has 4 cores total, no HT)

    I get decent FPS performance across the 3 toons that are assigned one static core each, but the two mages (which share one core) are laggy especially when they are in IF, etc. My center screen has the master toon (warrior) @ 1920x1020 resolution, while the slaves are at 960x1020 respectively (2 mages on the left screen and priest/druid on the right screen). With this configuration, I can see ALL 5 of them simultaneously ALL the time (I don't like PiP hehe). Initially, I didn't enable CPU affinity (because i didn't know it was an option), but just last month I switched to it and has improved game performance by a noticeable margin.

    Yesterday, after doing tons of research, I finally pulled the trigger on upgrading my CPU/mobo. Bought an FX-8120 and Gigabyte 990x SLI Mobo for just a tad under $300 (after rebate). I already have DDR3 memory and a couple of new 7200 RPM harddrives saved up and waiting for this upgrade. Here is an article that somehow convinced me to try out a Bulldozer rig instead of going Intel i5-2500K combo (which would have cost me $50 more than the 8120 combo at the least): http://techreport.com/articles.x/21865/2

    I plan to manually set CPU affinity to one core per slave client, and assigning 2 cores to the master client (warrior). This should leave me 2 cores to open up the Internet browser, Outlook express, and other stuff hehe. I'll let you guys know my findings once this upgrade is complete. Just curious if anyone else have tried Bulldozer and running multiple clients with CPU affinity manually set.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kedash00 View Post
    Dash, I have 5 computers at home, all varying degrees of ePeen-ness. Between my wifes, three sons, and my Skynet Killer capable, I believe I have enough experience with the different hardware to say, "stick with Intel".

    Are you likely to even notice a difference at that level? perhaps not. Will you feel more confident with the Intel vs second guessing your AMD purchase based upon the Benchmark reviews? Probably. Intel has a superb track record. Not saying AMD doesnt. Ive personally seen AMD chips last longer than Intel, but then again they dont put out the same power, so its almost like saying, "I never used 4th gear in my car, hence it never fails, so its better"... eeeaanntt False.

    Ive replaced my sons AMD CPU once, and another sons AMD was DOA after purchase, so I swapped it out for a different mobo and cpu combo and went Intel. Skynet is Intel. Its overclocked and not seen one issue.





    Quote Originally Posted by MiRai View Post
    ^ Epic Win. Seriously. Best reply. Hard to argue Fact vs Fiction.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bollwerk View Post
    Get an Intel. Period.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ebony View Post
    its easy u got the money go Intel if not then go AMD like me. i have not many probs but a lot are intel fan boys :P
    I think this quote is "dissectable" in so many ways. But I "think" the point this is trying to make is clear. If your willing to sacrifice some performance for >$100, or cant wait another pay period to afford a better product. AMD is just fine. Dont all cars get you from A to B? Why do people buy nice ones? loyalty? cost? dependability? low maintenance? who knows.


    Side note: Arent all "Fan boy" comments hypocritical in themselves? Its shameful really.

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