To panda or not to panda, That.... is the question

[Lan]

The original post seemed to state that the lore around the end boss is why he plays and is clearly a lot more into lore than I am. If that is the only reason you play it may be a dissapointment, but I don't get that much out of the lore personally. There will still be an end boss that is harder to kill then all his minions and it will take our raid team a good bit of effort to take him out. There is going to be a new class to level and 5boxing it looks like it will be fun. There is a lot of new lore around Blizz's take on asian culture(s) which will also be new. I've also found it tough to gear up all my toons at max level and scenarios may make this a bit easier, assuming we can box some or all of them. I've been able to box some dungeon's but only with my mixed class teams and they aren't as efficient as the same class teams, but same class teams don't work in dungeon's.

The things I like around raiding will be there, a new class to level and some potential options for additional game play make up some of my reasons to stay and play.

[valkry]

The original post seemed to state that the lore around the end boss is why he plays and is clearly a lot more into lore than I am. If that is the only reason you play it may be a dissapointment, but I don't get that much out of the lore personally. There will still be an end boss that is harder to kill then all his minions and it will take our raid team a good bit of effort to take him out. There is going to be a new class to level and 5boxing it looks like it will be fun. There is a lot of new lore around Blizz's take on asian culture(s) which will also be new. I've also found it tough to gear up all my toons at max level and scenarios may make this a bit easier, assuming we can box some or all of them. I've been able to box some dungeon's but only with my mixed class teams and they aren't as efficient as the same class teams, but same class teams don't work in dungeon's.

The things I like around raiding will be there, a new class to level and some potential options for additional game play make up some of my reasons to stay and play.

because there is absolutely, none whatsoever, lore around Garrosh... none!

[Lan]

Not debating the lack of lore around endgame boss. Just not following that lack of endgame boss lore as being the reason not to play. To panda or not as it was put seems narrow. Am I missing something not being into lore or not being on a RP realm? Please educate the endgame boss lore illiterate in me why this is so important to not play if it doesn't exist. Are there alternatives that are doing it better? SWTOR's Darth Malgus seemed a bit missing from end game content, though I haven't played many others to know if other MMO's do this as WOW has done in the past.

[traedoril]

because there is absolutely, none whatsoever, lore around Garrosh... none!

The lore around Garrosh is very limited. Blizzard kinda threw him in as almost and after thought. I am all for having Garrosh be the final boss in MoP but lets face it the alliance kill him pretty regularly as it is, and It makes no sense at all to have him be a final end boss for the alliance.

King Varian Wrynn and his absolute hatred for the horde should not care if an incompetant leader is warcheif of the horde. He should in fact be trying to stop him from being deposed. It benifits the alliance much more to have an idiot leading the horde then someone competant like Thrall.

Garrosh's lore resides mainly in cataclysm while that is understandable it really lacks depth. I get he is Grom's desendant and he was picked by Thrall because of that. He lacks any real claim to being warcheif and since his inception has done nothing but bring the horde down. Exiled Vol'jin, Killed Cairne, Alienated Baine and Jaina (while human is a very staunch horde supporter) and embarrased Sylvanas (play the leveling area for undead again).

The reason I am not on an RP server is because there are none with many boxers on them. I do arena for fun on the side as well and my partners that I have played for 5 seasons with are both on this server.

I truly didn't expect this many responses it was just a mere question of why other people were sticking around. I am still on the wall for whether I'll play MoP or not but that is my reasoning behind my statements.

[Ualaa]

If Blizzard decides on a given NPC as the final raid boss, or whatever...
It doesn't really matter to me if there is a lot of lore now or if there's little lore now.

Blizzard can make the lore as it goes along, and develop the story.
After all, all the lore for everything previous including every other game by Blizzard was at one point non-existent and developed into what we have now.

Not everyone necessarily likes every title, but Blizzard is a front runner for game of the year, for every game and every expansion to those games ever released.
Chances are, there will be a decent amount of lore to discover as the expansion moves along.
The raids will present a challenge, and eventually get nerfed down to where almost everyone can do them.
Etc...

[valkry]

The lore around Garrosh is very limited. Blizzard kinda threw him in as almost and after thought. I am all for having Garrosh be the final boss in MoP but lets face it the alliance kill him pretty regularly as it is, and It makes no sense at all to have him be a final end boss for the alliance.

King Varian Wrynn and his absolute hatred for the horde should not care if an incompetant leader is warcheif of the horde. He should in fact be trying to stop him from being deposed. It benifits the alliance much more to have an idiot leading the horde then someone competant like Thrall.

Garrosh's lore resides mainly in cataclysm while that is understandable it really lacks depth. I get he is Grom's desendant and he was picked by Thrall because of that. He lacks any real claim to being warcheif and since his inception has done nothing but bring the horde down. Exiled Vol'jin, Killed Cairne, Alienated Baine and Jaina (while human is a very staunch horde supporter) and embarrased Sylvanas (play the leveling area for undead again).

The reason I am not on an RP server is because there are none with many boxers on them. I do arena for fun on the side as well and my partners that I have played for 5 seasons with are both on this server.

I truly didn't expect this many responses it was just a mere question of why other people were sticking around. I am still on the wall for whether I'll play MoP or not but that is my reasoning behind my statements.

Depends if that incompetent warchief continues his warcrimes!! Garrosh is bloodthirtsy, but we are only Alliance schoolboys so we are going to just roll over and let him keep claiming territories...NOT. I'm betting he will continue to commit atrocities in this expansion and will have to be removed, for everyone's sake.

And his lore starts in BC, through wotlk, stampedes cata and extends into MoP.