bot?i think so

[Ughmahedhurtz]

I made two statements. The first statement was separate from the second one, and simply a semantic point about his reasoning behind the cause of WoW queues. I don't see how you could find my reasoning behind whether or not it's boting to be poor, since I didn't post any.

If we're going to be pedantic, it's still boting. I'll freely admit I have a mouse macro set up to spam click the area where the dungeon finder queue pops up, so I can go get a coffee while I'm waiting and not miss the queue. Also technically boting, but who really cares? Plenty of things players do, particularly multiboxers, crosses that line. However, if it's not giving him any advantage in PvP, hurting the economy, etc, it's a fairly trivial issue.

I can't figure out if you're being willfully obtuse or just having problems communicating. Your original point seemed to be that this wasn't that big of a deal because it was cheating to A) get around a lame mechanic (arguable) and/or B) very few people do it so it's not harmful (sophistry). Now you're admitting to cheating as a way to prove...what, exactly? At the risk of taking you slightly out of context, it should be obvious that WE care.

[honeypot2011]

Hi just to say..in hindsight and the arguments that have a arisen due to my post in the first place..i am sorry that i probably posted this in the first place ..i was just at the right/wrong place at the time to see this..and in my own nieve eyes just posted it,seeing it as ironic of a perceived bot in my eyes..and its actions..and the view of us as multiboxers ..but i didnt expect it to develop into a raging discussion..or downwould spiral into one..and i apologise..for getting this started..it was just an observation..and i am a little embarrassed its become this (..and as app above says..we get a enough stick as it is..and i hate to see multiboxers fighting among multiboxers..
But again everyone is allowed there own opinion..right or wrong..but.if i could delete this post i would..i feel like hiding in a corner somewhere..and sorry again..
in future..i'll probably think more before i post like this..hindsight is a blessing and a curse...lets make love not war..
anyway...just wanted to say..

EDIT: Sorry for the grammar too,probabaly should be a few fullstops in there too unless you can read it in one long breath

Have a habit of the ... thing between...words...and sentences...or so it seems..(a little rushed typing this and need to be elsewhere..ill re-edit sometime )

[Apatheist]

I can't figure out if you're being willfully obtuse or just having problems communicating. Your original point seemed to be that this wasn't that big of a deal because it was cheating to A) get around a lame mechanic (arguable) and/or B) very few people do it so it's not harmful (sophistry). Now you're admitting to cheating as a way to prove...what, exactly? At the risk of taking you slightly out of context, it should be obvious that WE care.

Please. Multiboxing pushes the line of automation and exploitation on a daily basis nobody seems to mind. Multiple actions per keystroke and macro strings are both against Blizzards ToS and are standard features of all decent boxing software.

The selective outrage over an utterly trivial issue is seems a little bit hypocritical to me. If it's not impacting anyone, have at it.

i am sorry that i probably posted this in the first place

No need to be sorry. Arguments are good for you (plus it stops me from falling asleep at work).

[Khatovar]

Please. Multiboxing pushes the line of automation and exploitation on a daily basis nobody seems to mind. Multiple actions per keystroke and macro strings are both against Blizzards ToS and are standard features of all decent boxing software.

Where is this automation and exploitation that you claim that we all use on a daily basis? Multiple actions per keystroke and macro strings are also standard features of most decent keyboards and mice, that doesn't mean they're acceptable to use or that we use them. And last I checked, WoW wasn't the only game on the planet. There are games out there that do allow such things.

[Apps]

Please. Multiboxing pushes the line of automation and exploitation on a daily basis nobody seems to mind.

Completely False statement.
People really should learn a little bit about coding / scripting before continuing to push uneducated nonsense.

Multiple actions per keystroke and macro strings are both against Blizzards ToS and are standard features of all decent boxing software.

Again, Completely False statement.
Not only does blizzard allow it, they provide a means to use it in game. Type /Macro in game to learn more about it.
Also, simply click on the link below to learn more about all the various ways you can use blizzards in game UI / macro system to make your gaming a lot more fun.
wow_macro
Or as Khat pointed out...

The selective outrage over an utterly trivial issue is seems a little bit hypocritical to me.

And this comment is the reason why some individuals will likely never understand. Attempting to trivializing an issue, does not lessen the fact that its an issue.

If it's not impacting anyone, have at it.

Absurd statement. However indirect, all actions have an impact, regardless of being uneducated. Just reading these posts has an impact on people.

[Ughmahedhurtz]

Please. Multiboxing pushes the line of automation and exploitation on a daily basis nobody seems to mind. Multiple actions per keystroke and macro strings are both against Blizzards ToS and are standard features of all decent boxing software.

I don't have the energy to counter-troll you. Google "multiboxing popsicle stick" for more info. You're welcome.

ITT: stark example of moral turpitude.

[thefunk]

He reminds me of Shodokan's arrogant little brother...

Apatheist it sounds like you're either trolling or having a bad day. On this forum we prefer to prove factually that multiboxing is legal and not automation. This has been confirmed by blue posters after a huge amount of work from the community in ensuring we adhere to the EULA. We are also adults that don't partake in nonsensical debates that clearly offer no constructive ideas or improvements.

What you are doing is not helpful and downright disrespectful to this community.

edit: Can I please ask this thread gets locked so we can move on away from this drama thanks.

[Apatheist]

I don't have the energy to counter-troll you. Google "multiboxing popsicle stick" for more info. You're welcome.

ITT: stark example of moral turpitude.

I don't understand why you find it necessary to resort to personal attacks rather than simply having a discussion? You disagree with me, I get it. Why be an asshole about it?

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Never mind. After I take a break for a while I forget what a lot of the WoW community is like.

Completely False statement.
People really should learn a little bit about coding / scripting before continuing to push uneducated nonsense.

It's not a false statement. Blizzard does not allow macro strings (they were intentionally removed by Blizzard a while ago). They also don't allow multiple actions per key press, outside of a select few instances via in-game macros.

The rule has always been one action per client, per key press. Go and ask a GM what the stance is on being able to keymap an entire rotation and interrupt sequence into a single button, predefined delays on actions, etc. Addons do this are banned.

Like I said, I'm not pointing it out because I have a problem with it. I was simply using it as an example of something that's generally considered acceptable, though it's technically breaking the rules.