Bulldozer vz. Sandy Bridge

[MiRai]

I have no idea what there is to discuss.

[Apps]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103961
AMD
or...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115095
Sandy Bridge



Discuss

and ty for input

Dash, I have 5 computers at home, all varying degrees of ePeen-ness. Between my wifes, three sons, and my Skynet Killer capable, I believe I have enough experience with the different hardware to say, "stick with Intel".

Are you likely to even notice a difference at that level? perhaps not. Will you feel more confident with the Intel vs second guessing your AMD purchase based upon the Benchmark reviews? Probably. Intel has a superb track record. Not saying AMD doesnt. Ive personally seen AMD chips last longer than Intel, but then again they dont put out the same power, so its almost like saying, "I never used 4th gear in my car, hence it never fails, so its better"... eeeaanntt False.

Ive replaced my sons AMD CPU once, and another sons AMD was DOA after purchase, so I swapped it out for a different mobo and cpu combo and went Intel. Skynet is Intel. Its overclocked and not seen one issue.

I have no idea what there is to discuss.

^ Epic Win. Seriously. Best reply. Hard to argue Fact vs Fiction.

Get an Intel. Period.

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its easy u got the money go Intel if not then go AMD like me. i have not many probs but a lot are intel fan boys :P

I think this quote is "dissectable" in so many ways. But I "think" the point this is trying to make is clear. If your willing to sacrifice some performance for >$100, or cant wait another pay period to afford a better product. AMD is just fine. Dont all cars get you from A to B? Why do people buy nice ones? loyalty? cost? dependability? low maintenance? who knows.


Side note: Arent all "Fan boy" comments hypocritical in themselves? Its shameful really.

[Sajuuk]

Dash, I have 5 computers at home, all varying degrees of ePeen-ness. Between my wifes, three sons, and my Skynet Killer capable, I believe I have enough experience with the different hardware to say, "stick with Intel".

Are you likely to even notice a difference at that level? perhaps not. Will you feel more confident with the Intel vs second guessing your AMD purchase based upon the Benchmark reviews? Probably. Intel has a superb track record. Not saying AMD doesnt. Ive personally seen AMD chips last longer than Intel, but then again they dont put out the same power, so its almost like saying, "I never used 4th gear in my car, hence it never fails, so its better"... eeeaanntt False.

Ive replaced my sons AMD CPU once, and another sons AMD was DOA after purchase, so I swapped it out for a different mobo and cpu combo and went Intel. Skynet is Intel. Its overclocked and not seen one issue.






^ Epic Win. Seriously. Best reply. Hard to argue Fact vs Fiction.



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I think this quote is "dissectable" in so many ways. But I "think" the point this is trying to make is clear. If your willing to sacrifice some performance for >$100, or cant wait another pay period to afford a better product. AMD is just fine. Dont all cars get you from A to B? Why do people buy nice ones? loyalty? cost? dependability? low maintenance? who knows.


Side note: Arent all "Fan boy" comments hypocritical in themselves? Its shameful really.

yup.


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[lonerider]

Dash, I have 5 computers at home, all varying degrees of ePeen-ness. Between my wifes, three sons, and my Skynet Killer capable, I believe I have enough experience with the different hardware to say, "stick with Intel".

I'm sure you have built enough computers to have a good sense of what's good and what's not when it comes to hardware. In my case, I have owned and operated a small computer shop for 6 years (built HUNDREDs of custom/whitebox computers, upgraded/rebuilt HUNDREDS of branded ones), worked in a couple of companies as tech support specialist and network admin for over 8 years, etc (not going to post my full resume here, lol). I'd say my experience in the field of PC hardware would be enough to have led me to be brand-neutral (Intel vs. AMD). I've witnessed both had ups and downs for the past 2 decades... have to admit though Intel has the edge right now when it comes to overall performance.

But we are talking about a very specific application here, multiboxing. Running one instance of the WoW client per static core would be something I'm very curious to see... in one particular scenario, (at stock speeds) would an Intel i5-2500K running 8 WoW clients (2 clients per static core) outperform an AMD FX-8150 running 8 WoW clients (1 client per static core)? Cuz I could get an 8150+SLI motherboard at roughly $25 more than an i5-2500K+SLI motherboard combo. Which do you think would have the edge in the performance-per-dollar ratio?

[Ughmahedhurtz]

I'm sure you have built enough computers to have a good sense of what's good and what's not when it comes to hardware. In my case, I have owned and operated a small computer shop for 6 years (built HUNDREDs of custom/whitebox computers, upgraded/rebuilt HUNDREDS of branded ones), worked in a couple of companies as tech support specialist and network admin for over 8 years, etc (not going to post my full resume here, lol). I'd say my experience in the field of PC hardware would be enough to have led me to be brand-neutral (Intel vs. AMD). I've witnessed both had ups and downs for the past 2 decades... have to admit though Intel has the edge right now when it comes to overall performance.

While we're exploring the Appeal to Authority fallacy, having worked at or as a vendor to tier 1 PC OEMs and their ODMs for about 14 years now and leading teams that have shipped hundreds of unique products and thousands of individual units through the software QA process (and seen the 3rd-level support data coming back from the field), I don't personally know anyone in the industry that will choose an AMD-based product over a comparably priced (i.e.: within ~20%) Intel-based product when it comes to their home machines or for friends/family units. Seeing the statistics on defect counts throughout the product cycles, I can only report that I've seen enough data that AMD is behind not due to any pogrom on the part of us Intel Fanboys.

That said, when I say "much less stable," we're talking about small percentages that would probably be buried in the noise of bad driver updates, buggy applications, thermal issues due to dust, cheap peripheral hardware, misconfigured timings in BIOS and general cruft most users abuse their systems with.