Need Advice - Retribution Paladin lvl 78

[Flight]

Not a boxing question so much, but I've been reading up and getting confused everywhere else so I'm brining it back to the community I know can help.

I got hacked 2-3 years ago. Didn't know for a few months so they couldn't reimburse deleter character names/item/gold/bank contents etc. They then used my Pallie as a mining char. Leveled him from 74-78, so my boxing toons are out of sync. Plan now is to solo lvl the Pallie to 85 first from 78 then go back to my lvl 73/74 boxing crew.


So what I'm asking for help with is a basic attack sequence or even macro for Retri Pallie solo questing. I'm just so lost with the rehashing of everything Pallie. If anyone could offer this help/advice or point me to a decent link I'd appreciate it. Build I've found is : http://www.paladinlevelingspec.net/paladin-leveing-spec I'm thinking that is prolly pretty standard for leveling Pallie ?

[candlebox]

First off...Pally not Pallie.

I dont know if i should take this post seriously....all the info you need is in the forums under macros.

If you are unsure about spec, and don't want to read/do math you can always look at elitistjerks.com for top end debated specs.

But none of it should matter untill you hit 85 anyways. Just put in what sounds the best if you are to lazy.

[Flight]

First off...Pally not Pallie.

I dont know if i should take this post seriously....all the info you need is in the forums under macros.

If you are unsure about spec, and don't want to read/do math you can always look at elitistjerks.com for top end debated specs.

But none of it should matter untill you hit 85 anyways. Just put in what sounds the best if you are to lazy.

Yes I'm serious and I've spent the last four hours reading this and other forums.

The problem is a lot seems to have changed in both the recent and long term past. Also a lot is directed at lvl 85 macros, which I'm not. For instance I was confused for a while by the spec I posted because an ability called Sacred Shield has replaced one of the abilities listed (Rebuke I think off hand ?)


You'd be surprised how confusing things can be if you come back after a long break to a char, especially one that isn't max lvl and especially Paladin which seemed to have changed massively.

The reason I didn't post in other forums is because when you ask for help you tend to get told to go away and read the forums - which is what you've pretty much taken the time to type out and which I've already done and got confused.


I'll go back and spend more time reading up. if anyone could point retribution threads that aren't confusing or out of date I'd appreciate it. If I'm out of order posting then I apologise and feel free to delete the thread.

[HPAVC]

I would just go to http://www.wowpopular.com/Paladin/Retribution/Talents and do what they say in one of the top specs for your play style. Easy and you could have been 80 in the 4 hours of research. GLHF

[Flight]

I would just go to http://www.wowpopular.com/Paladin/Retribution/Talents and do what they say in one of the top specs for your play style. Easy and you could have been 80 in the 4 hours of research. GLHF

Thanks, I'll check it out.

[zenga]

Yes I'm serious and I've spent the last four hours reading this and other forums.

The problem is a lot seems to have changed in both the recent and long term past. Also a lot is directed at lvl 85 macros, which I'm not. For instance I was confused for a while by the spec I posted because an ability called Sacred Shield has replaced one of the abilities listed (Rebuke I think off hand ?)


You'd be surprised how confusing things can be if you come back after a long break to a char, especially one that isn't max lvl and especially Paladin which seemed to have changed massively.

The reason I didn't post in other forums is because when you ask for help you tend to get told to go away and read the forums - which is what you've pretty much taken the time to type out and which I've already done and got confused.


I'll go back and spend more time reading up. if anyone could point retribution threads that aren't confusing or out of date I'd appreciate it. If I'm out of order posting then I apologise and feel free to delete the thread.

I've always played protection myself, and was never interested in retribution. Since I picked up my pally with this new patch, I got a retribution off spec to see what it's like, obviously had to figure out some stuff to make it somewhat working for me. So I made myself some notes and practised a bit vs the target dummy. I'll try to share them:

- your main move is crusader strike, it generates a stack of holy power, you can have a maximum of 3 holy power
- you want an addon that tracks your amount of holy power
- you want to keep inquisition up, it's a buff that increases your damage done by 30%, if you cast inquisition, it consumes all your holy power, but the more stacks of holy power you had, the longer it lasts, you might want to track this with an addon as well
- when crusader strike is on cooldown, use judgement
- if you have 3 holy power stacks, use templar's verdict
- sometimes you get a proc called the art of war, and it makes your next exorsism cast instant, only use exorcism when this procs (you get like 2 yellow marks in your interface when this happens)
- sometimes divine purpose might proc, which makes your next move consume no holy power
- zealotry is another strong cooldown, pop it and every time you use crusader strike you'll generate 3 stacks of holy power ... in order to cast zealotry you need to have 3 holy power up, but it won't consume your holy power
- you obviously have wings, or avenging wrath
- if you have nothing to cast, you want to use consecration or holy wrath
- rebuke is your interrupt
- world of glory is your instant heal, it uses all holy power
- i run with seal of truth & kings & retribution aura

obviously this ain't a max dps guide, but more a means for myself to understand the basics of the spec
it's all centred around using holy power and what you do with it
if you don't have certain abilities at your level, just skip them

[Flight]

I'd start here. Actually, the whole thing is worth reading. Paladins, especially Ret, don't have a single faceroll button anymore, you need to pay attention to what's going on and react based on priorities. My Ret uses a 3step toggle and that still doesn't even cover procs {AoW and DP} or AOE {Cons or AW}, which I do manually.

The best advice I can give is drop the Ret for something else. Spec him prot or holy and solo-level him through dungeons if you want and boost the rest of your team, then go back and boost a replacement. Or make him the new tank or healer for your group and spec your current tank/healer out to DPS. I don't know what your current group setup is, but ret really isn't the best option for boxing for a number of reasons these days.

Thanks Khatovar. I'm working through that thread.

I've always played protection myself, and was never interested in retribution. Since I picked up my pally with this new patch, I got a retribution off spec to see what it's like, obviously had to figure out some stuff to make it somewhat working for me. So I made myself some notes and practised a bit vs the target dummy. I'll try to share them:

- your main move is crusader strike, it generates a stack of holy power, you can have a maximum of 3 holy power
- you want an addon that tracks your amount of holy power
- you want to keep inquisition up, it's a buff that increases your damage done by 30%, if you cast inquisition, it consumes all your holy power, but the more stacks of holy power you had, the longer it lasts, you might want to track this with an addon as well
- when crusader strike is on cooldown, use judgement
- if you have 3 holy power stacks, use templar's verdict
- sometimes you get a proc called the art of war, and it makes your next exorsism cast instant, only use exorcism when this procs (you get like 2 yellow marks in your interface when this happens)
- sometimes divine purpose might proc, which makes your next move consume no holy power
- zealotry is another strong cooldown, pop it and every time you use crusader strike you'll generate 3 stacks of holy power ... in order to cast zealotry you need to have 3 holy power up, but it won't consume your holy power
- you obviously have wings, or avenging wrath
- if you have nothing to cast, you want to use consecration or holy wrath
- rebuke is your interrupt
- world of glory is your instant heal, it uses all holy power
- i run with seal of truth & kings & retribution aura

obviously this ain't a max dps guide, but more a means for myself to understand the basics of the spec
it's all centred around using holy power and what you do with it
if you don't have certain abilities at your level, just skip them

Brilliant Zenga. That's a great help, thank you.

Do you have any macros that will be useful please ?




As for addons I'm reading up on clcinfo and clcret. Anyone used those ? Also this looks interesting :

http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/powerauras-classic

http://powerauras.wikispaces.com/How+to+Use

[zenga]

Do you have any macros that will be useful please ?

If you are asking for a 1 stop shop spammable castsequence: nope I don't use them. And I strongly advise against using them if you play solo. It's gonna take half an hour to get used to manually casting your abilities while questing, maybe an hour. And you gonna learn far more in this short period about the spec than when you would use 1 spammable castsequence for 2 months straight.

As for addons I'm reading up on clcinfo and clcret. Anyone used those ? Also this looks interesting :

http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/powerauras-classic

http://powerauras.wikispaces.com/How+to+Use

powerauras is pretty much the swiss knife when it comes to tracking procs, abilities, stacks, debuffs, etc ....
i can share you how i track my holy power in power auras on my prot (same goes for ret & holy actually)

/powa
click 'page 1' under character effects
chose import
paste in the pop up box
Version:4.23; b:0.1922; g:0.9529; thresholdinvert:true; icon:spell_holy_lightsgrace; x:-200; bufftype:10; texture:73; PowerType:9; threshold:1; size:0.25; y:150; texmode:2
repeat import/paste
Version:4.23; b:0.1922; g:0.9529; thresholdinvert:true; icon:spell_holy_lightsgrace; x:-200; bufftype:10; texture:73; PowerType:9; threshold:2; size:0.38; y:150; texmode:2
and once more
Version:4.23; b:0.0549; g:0.3608; thresholdinvert:true; icon:spell_holy_lightsgrace; x:-200; bufftype:10; texture:72; sound:12; PowerType:9; threshold:3; size:0.55; y:150; texmode:2

to track buff durations like inquisition i use chronobars (and for many other durations on other toons)

[Khatovar]

I'd start here. Actually, the whole thing is worth reading. Paladins, especially Ret, don't have a single faceroll button anymore, you need to pay attention to what's going on and react based on priorities. My Ret uses a 3step toggle and that still doesn't even cover procs {AoW and DP} or AOE {Cons or AW}, which I do manually.

The best advice I can give is drop the Ret for something else. Spec him prot or holy and solo-level him through dungeons if you want and boost the rest of your team, then go back and boost a replacement. Or make him the new tank or healer for your group and spec your current tank/healer out to DPS. I don't know what your current group setup is, but ret really isn't the best option for boxing for a number of reasons these days.

[Nikita]

What multiboxing software are you using? Ive got a pretty decent script for HotkeyNet which pushes my DPS up to 8 k on bosses. Im currently @ lvl 83 with my ret paladins.