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  1. #11

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    Thank you for your inputs

    I prefer long range characters because it's more relaxed to play. Good thing a Powertech is a long range tank. I really like mix classes now so that I can learn all of them. Maybe when I get tired of the long range team I'll setup a Melee team.

    Tankless 4 Sorc is interesting but I'm not sure if it's feasible in Hard mode at high levels.

    So I should trade Merc to Sniper. I really like the missiles from Merc but if a Sniper is more effective in DPS boxing wise then I'll go with it. How's the Sniper DPS by the way, PVE wise?

    Is there a Species preference per class like WoW or its just pure cosmetics?

    Good to know Operative is a good choice for healing. How's Operative DPS by the way. Will it be better if I make him DPS and the Merc as healer rather than getting the Sniper?

    Will you still need a healer if you have PT+3Sorc Just like in WoW 1tank + 4 Ele Shamans in Hard modes?
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    Can one of you guys boxing 4 post a how to keymap setup for swtor?
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  3. #13

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diwa View Post
    Thank you for your inputs

    I prefer long range characters because it's more relaxed to play. Good thing a Powertech is a long range tank. I really like mix classes now so that I can learn all of them. Maybe when I get tired of the long range team I'll setup a Melee team.

    Tankless 4 Sorc is interesting but I'm not sure if it's feasible in Hard mode at high levels.

    So I should trade Merc to Sniper. I really like the missiles from Merc but if a Sniper is more effective in DPS boxing wise then I'll go with it. How's the Sniper DPS by the way, PVE wise?

    Is there a Species preference per class like WoW or its just pure cosmetics?

    Good to know Operative is a good choice for healing. How's Operative DPS by the way. Will it be better if I make him DPS and the Merc as healer rather than getting the Sniper?

    Will you still need a healer if you have PT+3Sorc Just like in WoW 1tank + 4 Ele Shamans in Hard modes?
    Operative/Mercenary DPS is actually lowish in a sustained fight. They will be bottom tier of the DPSable classes. Their mechanic retards their ability to sustain a high DPS rate in long encounters.

    Marauders and Juggs are great because they have limitless power. Sorcs are good because they have limitless DPS power. Snipers are good because they are slightly better than Operatives in sustained DPS.

    I figure there are probably 2 top end PvE groups for hardmodes. 3 Sorc 1 PT or 2 Sorc 1 PT 1 Scoundrel for healing. Sniper might be interesting, but most hardmodes require some movement and snipers are pretty static when doing max DPS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mercbeast View Post
    Operative/Mercenary DPS is actually lowish in a sustained fight. They will be bottom tier of the DPSable classes. Their mechanic retards their ability to sustain a high DPS rate in long encounters.

    Marauders and Juggs are great because they have limitless power. Sorcs are good because they have limitless DPS power. Snipers are good because they are slightly better than Operatives in sustained DPS.

    I figure there are probably 2 top end PvE groups for hardmodes. 3 Sorc 1 PT or 2 Sorc 1 PT 1 Scoundrel for healing. Sniper might be interesting, but most hardmodes require some movement and snipers are pretty static when doing max DPS.
    Just a reminder, that while the above is true, they are re-balancing the classes so pick what you feel would work for you and, while it might not be the best now, it should improve in time.

    Btw, my main is a Sith Assassin (solo played), Tank spec'd, and it does very well in this roll and can spec out to dps if needed. Dark charge's lightning discharge, AOE strikes, AOE taunt, setup CC (think rogue sap) single target force pull. I can tank for PUG's very well if the group has some common sense and gives me a second to build hate before unloading on the group of elites. So this assassin coupled with multiple sorcs could prove very viable.

    Honestly, with the high DPS Inquisitor companions like Xalek, Ashara and and Andronikus Revel, I never see myself needing a full group. Maybe I wont be able to do heroic 4's but then again the mechanics in many of those would prove difficult (maybe not impossible) for boxers so my boxing interest is for 2 man heroics and below. I have my guild for anything else

    Another thought is that Ive heard guild makes commenting on seeing level 45+ Operatives soloing champion mobs in heroic 4 man content. If you can do that then any thing else boxed with that would be just gravy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Korruptor View Post
    Just a reminder, that while the above is true, they are re-balancing the classes so pick what you feel would work for you and, while it might not be the best now, it should improve in time.

    Btw, my main is a Sith Assassin (solo played), Tank spec'd, and it does very well in this roll and can spec out to dps if needed. Dark charge's lightning discharge, AOE strikes, AOE taunt, setup CC (think rogue sap) single target force pull. I can tank for PUG's very well if the group has some common sense and gives me a second to build hate before unloading on the group of elites. So this assassin coupled with multiple sorcs could prove very viable.

    Honestly, with the high DPS Inquisitor companions like Xalek, Ashara and and Andronikus Revel, I never see myself needing a full group. Maybe I wont be able to do heroic 4's but then again the mechanics in many of those would prove difficult (maybe not impossible) for boxers so my boxing interest is for 2 man heroics and below. I have my guild for anything else

    Another thought is that Ive heard guild makes commenting on seeing level 45+ Operatives soloing champion mobs in heroic 4 man content. If you can do that then any thing else boxed with that would be just gravy.
    I have been soloing one of my BHs and i really miss having a 2nd toon when i run into random champion mobs. i hate not being able to take them down solo 8( ..
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    I'm currently operating two at a time. I have two of my accounts as ranged, and the other two accounts are melee. I settled on picking one from each, to level with. Goes SOO much faster when you arent chasing people all over the place. Melee leaps in, gets aggro, and the ranged blows shit up. Use a companion for each, one dps companion and one heals / dps... then go farm Heroic+4 areas. Mega cash, and nice exp.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyonheart View Post
    I have been soloing one of my BHs and i really miss having a 2nd toon when i run into random champion mobs. i hate not being able to take them down solo 8( ..
    Im with you Lyon. Once... I played one account solo. I think I did it for about 2 hrs before I decided it was FAR too easy of a game. Felt "kiddie-like". You never realize how much of a skilled individual you are as a multiboxer, and the love for the challenge, than when you revert back to teddy bear mode.

    Im certain my groups will be double melee, and double ranged...... until they change the classes around...lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Korruptor View Post
    Just a reminder, that while the above is true, they are re-balancing the classes so pick what you feel would work for you and, while it might not be the best now, it should improve in time.

    Btw, my main is a Sith Assassin (solo played), Tank spec'd, and it does very well in this roll and can spec out to dps if needed. Dark charge's lightning discharge, AOE strikes, AOE taunt, setup CC (think rogue sap) single target force pull. I can tank for PUG's very well if the group has some common sense and gives me a second to build hate before unloading on the group of elites. So this assassin coupled with multiple sorcs could prove very viable.

    Honestly, with the high DPS Inquisitor companions like Xalek, Ashara and and Andronikus Revel, I never see myself needing a full group. Maybe I wont be able to do heroic 4's but then again the mechanics in many of those would prove difficult (maybe not impossible) for boxers so my boxing interest is for 2 man heroics and below. I have my guild for anything else

    Another thought is that Ive heard guild makes commenting on seeing level 45+ Operatives soloing champion mobs in heroic 4 man content. If you can do that then any thing else boxed with that would be just gravy.
    They will do some fine tuning type balancing, but some things are not likely to change. For example, assassins and shadows are unlikely to ever get charge. For me this immediately puts them on the back burner for a main tank in a MB heroic party.

    Also, any class with range can solo champion level mobs by exploiting pathing. Even melee can do it. There is also a difference between world champions and hardmode champions and then not all champions are created equal There are some champions anyone can toe to toe beat given moderately appropriate gear and then there are champions that will require a group no matter what.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mercbeast View Post
    They will do some fine tuning type balancing, but some things are not likely to change. For example, assassins and shadows are unlikely to ever get charge. For me this immediately puts them on the back burner for a main tank in a MB heroic party.
    They might not get charge but I sure can stealth right into a group and open with a chain of AOE's.

    Did I mention that they can single target CC without initiating combat for easier setup?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Korruptor View Post
    They might not get charge but I sure can stealth right into a group and open with a chain of AOE's.

    Did I mention that they can single target CC without initiating combat for easier setup?
    In movement sensitive hardmodes, they do not have charge to quickly move around. That is a big issue because you almost definitely need to be running the healer from the healer perspective since it gives you a better overall awareness of what is going on and who needs to be moving.

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    Out of curiosity, "Going back to multiboxing, after an expensive hobby"...
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