Accounts w/ Different Names + Keyclone?

[Calx]

Note: Before reading this, know that Keyclone IS allowed by the TOS, just read up on it, you won't get banned for it. This is special circumstances.

I am curious, people say that it's a 'sure ban' if you're multiboxing using something like keyclone + accounts with different names.

However, since WoW came out, I've used two to three accounts at a time with different contact names, multiboxing (on the same system, usually, but manually - without the use of Keyclone or anything) and I've NEVER had any problems *at all*.

Is there something about them detecting Keyclone, then seeing the accounts running with it, and seeing that they have different names that gets you banned? Because I don't see any other reason for a 'guarenteed' ban besides that, since I've never had *any* issues running my multiple accounts.

Just curious, I don't want to risk my accounts with Keyclone if it's going to get my accounts banned when they weren't at risk before.

[Stealthy]

I am curious, people say that it's a 'sure ban' if you're multiboxing using something like keyclone + accounts with different names.

However, since WoW came out, I've used two to three accounts at a time with different contact names, multiboxing (on the same system, usually, but manually - without the use of Keyclone or anything) and I've NEVER had any problems *at all*.

Is there something about them detecting Keyclone, then seeing the accounts running with it, and seeing that they have different names that gets you banned? Because I don't see any other reason for a 'guarenteed' ban besides that, since I've never had *any* issues running my multiple accounts.

Just curious, I don't want to risk my accounts with Keyclone if it's going to get my accounts banned when they weren't at risk before.

Using Keyclone will defintely NOT get you banned. Playing with accounts under different names can however. As a multiboxer, expect to get your accounts looked at by GM's - if nothing has happened so far then you're not taking any additional risk by installing Keyclone.

Cheers,

Stealthy

[Zanjii]

The trick here is that sharing accounts is against the Terms of Service or whatchamacallit, outside of a very limited scope, and is a banable offense at that. And as is obvious, Multiboxers are not noted for being subtle and out of sight, they generally excel at drawing attention to themselves, whether they want to or not.

Nothing is a sure ban. If, however, you get reported and the GM checks up on your details and finds that you're simultaneously using accounts that aren't all yours, you may have some tricky explaining to do.


As to your real question, there is a subtle difference between multiboxing the old fasioned way with alt+tabbing or two keyboards or whatnot, and using Hard/Software multiplexing (sending one to signal several places). The difference is that you'll appear to be doing stuff a lot more synchronously with the latter, giving you a higher chance of being reported as a botter, thus earning you a higher chance of being scrutinized, thus a higher chance of being banned.


Also keep in mind, just because it hasn't happened yet doesn't mean it won't ever happen. That's faulty logic, that is.


Disclaimer: you may want a second, third and fifth opinion on this, I am not exactly an whadduyacallit, expert.

[Vyndree]

I am curious, people say that it's a 'sure ban' if you're multiboxing using something like keyclone + accounts with different names.

It's a "sure ban" when you use accounts with different names, particularly when you log them in at the same time. Keyclone has nothing to do with it.

What does have something to do with it is how often you get "noticed" by our friendly neighborhood GM. Ask a multiboxer how many times per session they get report threats and you'll get the idea why breaking the terms of use doesn't last long.

Neither this forum, nor Blizzard, supports account sharing. So I'd suggest you only play on the accounts you legally own -- which means those which contain your full legal name.

[Calx]

I am curious, people say that it's a 'sure ban' if you're multiboxing using something like keyclone + accounts with different names.

It's a "sure ban" when you use accounts with different names, particularly when you log them in at the same time. Keyclone has nothing to do with it.

What does have something to do with it is how often you get "noticed" by our friendly neighborhood GM. Ask a multiboxer how many times per session they get report threats and you'll get the idea why breaking the terms of use doesn't last long.

Neither this forum, nor Blizzard, supports account sharing. So I'd suggest you only play on the accounts you legally own -- which means those which contain your full legal name.

Alright.

Just seems weird. Even as recent as a few weeks ago, and as far back as a year or two ago, I've talked to GMs directly about my multiple accounts/characters and even mentioned the account names/characters, without any issues.

I created the accounts, I don't buy/sell/trade characters - I know that's a good way to get banned. (Or just a good way to get scammed!) I just didn't put my real name in them when I made them, which in hindsight was stupid I suppose, but it had never been an issue in any previous MMO and I didn't think it would be in this one. Ah well. (Maybe the GMs let me slide on them when they saw them because they saw the original account creation address/credit cards etc or something, but I'm not going to risk it with keyclone)

If I could fix it to change the accounts to my name now, I would. But I can't, so, oh well.

(In total I have four accounts, created by me, with different creation contact names - two to three are active at a time, sometimes four - and I almost always am at least dual logging. Just manually, not with keyclone.)

[mlwhitt]

Personally I have 5 accounts. All of them have the same contact information besides one account that my wife set up for me as a surprise. The problem was that she didn't have a clue about the game or whatnot so when she set up my second account she used her name. She does not, nor never has played and bought the game for me.

So I have an account that has my wife's name on it and four others that had my name on it. I never really thought much about it but since this topic and another like it I have decided to stop playing that account. Kind of sucks because I have a 70 on it but don't want to risk getting my other 4 accounts banned.

I really wish though there was different rules for a married couple. I am sure I am not the only person that got an account set up by a spouse that doesn't play the game.

[Eteocles]

Contact the Account guys and ask, since you're gonna quit using the account anyways you have nothing to lose or risk by asking; ask them "I'm a multiboxer. I've heard of other multiboxers getting in trouble due to non-matching names on accounts if they're reported for botting and the like; my 5th account, which only /I/ have ever used, was created by my wife as a birthday/other special occasion surprise. Due to this fact i'm afraid to continue using this account for fear of losing it or going through a long drawn out process in proving what I need to prove. Due to the above, is there any way I can have it switched to my name? I'll provide whatever you need, as I can prove my identity as well as my wife's if need be, I just have a 70 on there I'd rather not lose because of this."

Something like that :p Might get lucky since yours is true and a legit concern.

[Ghu]

You can however transfer the level 70 character to a new account setup in your name since your last name is the same.

"Who is eligible for account to account transfers?
Transfers between accounts are only allowed between one account where you are the owner to another account where you are the owner. To initiate an "account to account" transfer, you will have to answer the 'secret question' for each account, and the last name of each account holder must match. "

[Otlecs]

>but I'm not going to risk it with keyclone

I think you've missed the crux of the matter here. Multiboxing raises your profile. Keyclone does not. A raised profile means more GM attention.

At the time of writing this, Keyclone has absolutely no impact whatsoever on the risk to your account. There are multiple accounts right here, on these forums, of people proactively contacting GMs to explain their setup and being told it's fine. There are also lots of posts, including very recent ones on the WoW forums, saying that the way Keyclone operates is fine.

I'm not jumping on you here, not am I being pedantic for the sake of pedantry. I just want to be certain that nobody reading this thread will walk away under the mis-informed belief that Keyclone operates outside the current rules of the game, because it does not.

[Calx]

>but I'm not going to risk it with keyclone

I think you've missed the crux of the matter here. Multiboxing raises your profile. Keyclone does not. A raised profile means more GM attention.

At the time of writing this, Keyclone has absolutely no impact whatsoever on the risk to your account. There are multiple accounts right here, on these forums, of people proactively contacting GMs to explain their setup and being told it's fine. There are also lots of posts, including very recent ones on the WoW forums, saying that the way Keyclone operates is fine.

I'm not jumping on you here, not am I being pedantic for the sake of pedantry. I just want to be certain that nobody reading this thread will walk away under the mis-informed belief that Keyclone operates outside the current rules of the game, because it does not.

I understand Keyclone is safe to use. However, I also understand the image of a character being followed by two or more other characters, and the characters all casting synchronized spells can cause reports that cause investigations into the accounts. With manual multiboxing, I'm guessing I don't get reported often (or at all) because it doesn't look like that. So, I do think that multiboxing with Keyclone in particulary *can* raise your profile.

I don't doubt Keyclone is safe, I've read all the posts with GMs and CSRs saying that it's well within the TOS. I am just guessing it's not safe in my case - since people report that Keyclone + Multiboxing = ban, and I (as well as others I know) multibox with different contact name accounts without keyclone and have never received a ban.

Warning: THEORY ahead!
Also, we do know that Warden is invasive, although with good cause in my personal opinion, I'm willing to accept it - nobody (legit) wants botters/hackers and that it can probably tell that you're running Keyclone. Theoretically, Keyclone could be used by botters to very easily farm gold or powerlevel or something. For all we know, that DOES flag the accounts for 'investigation' to make sure that the accounts are being run within the TOS. Nothing wrong with that, just not a risk I'm willing to take. I bought the boxes, paid for my accounts, leveled my characters, but I made the stupid mistake of putting fake names on there. My own dumb fault.


Note: I updated my initial post so people understand I'm not questioning Keyclone's safety, just the risk in my particular situation.