Well, I got banned today, good-bye 4 mages, and mains. (Non Dual-Boxing Ban)

[Vyndree]

Yeah, sounds like we need to make this forum a little bit more exclusive. Perhaps make the registration process a bit more restrictive. I'm not sure if it's enabled already, but disallow anonymous viewing.

It's a double edged sword. They quote our community forums without directly linking the post in question. When we multiboxers confront them and show the community the entire thread, it's very easy for us to prove the thread was deliberately mis-quoted.

Public forums are both a bane and a boon.

[The IT Monkey]

By the way I am red headed so I can make fun of other read heads, >wink<

If that sketch is of you in your avatar... you must be red headed because your scalp got a sunburn.

BTW I am bald so can make fun of other baldies. >wink<

Technically I am bald too, but what little hair I do have is red, so does that mean I also can make fun of both red heads and baldies?

Yes you can... but I would get those quips in while the getting is good. Once you loose all visible red hair you loose the right to make fun of red heads... and I don't think you want to walk around with the hair from down under showing just to make fun of red heads.

[zanthor]

I'm a big fan of glass house...

We live in a glass house, we police people who admit they have in the past violated the ToS willingly for discussing it and keep on top of policing any posts that promote it and it's all good.

Everyone knows someone who's e-bayed an account, or taken one over for a friend, it happens and it's by far not limited to multiboxers. In fact I'd wager that due to the number of boxers who value their accounts multiboxers are LESS likely to cheat than anyone else - we have more to lose (4x the effort on average.)

[d0z3rr]

I'm a big fan of glass house...

We live in a glass house, we police people who admit they have in the past violated the ToS willingly for discussing it and keep on top of policing any posts that promote it and it's all good.

Everyone knows someone who's e-bayed an account, or taken one over for a friend, it happens and it's by far not limited to multiboxers. In fact I'd wager that due to the number of boxers who value their accounts multiboxers are LESS likely to cheat than anyone else - we have more to lose (4x the effort on average.)

If I had thought of multiboxing BEFORE I stupidly ebayed accounts, I would have NEVER ebayed an account. I just had no idea Keyclone existed! But it's no excuse, and I learned my lesson - the hard way.

[The IT Monkey]

Yeah, sounds like we need to make this forum a little bit more exclusive. Perhaps make the registration process a bit more restrictive. I'm not sure if it's enabled already, but disallow anonymous viewing.

It's a double edged sword. They quote our community forums without directly linking the post in question. When we multiboxers confront them and show the community the entire thread, it's very easy for us to prove the thread was deliberately mis-quoted.

Public forums are both a bane and a boon.

Anonymous viewing is a bad thing IMO. What we do is above board and legal... doing it in the dark would give people the wrong impression.

Misquotes are easily handled in the manner described by Vyndree. What we as a community need to look out for is posting things in such a way that they CAN be taken wrong. This falls on each of us individually.

[mlwhitt]

Yeah, sounds like we need to make this forum a little bit more exclusive. Perhaps make the registration process a bit more restrictive. I'm not sure if it's enabled already, but disallow anonymous viewing.

It's a double edged sword. They quote our community forums without directly linking the post in question. When we multiboxers confront them and show the community the entire thread, it's very easy for us to prove the thread was deliberately mis-quoted.

Public forums are both a bane and a boon.

Anonymous viewing is a bad thing IMO. What we do is above board and legal... doing it in the dark would give people the wrong impression.

Misquotes are easily handled in the manner described by Vyndree. What we as a community need to look out for is posting things in such a way that they CAN be taken wrong. This falls on each of us individually.

I agree with Monkey. It is best off leaving things in the open so people see we are not doing anything wrong. That being said we do need to continue to argue that EULA and TOS are 100% to be followed and for those that do not wish to do so, and that wish to be fridge multiboxers are not welcome in this community.

[Taipan]

FYI: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/th...sid=1&pageNo=1

Hum...

Am I misreading (not being a native english speaker) or the immediate response from the Greenie Palehoof to the OP still brings back some uncertainty for software-based multi-boxers ?

I quote :
"In fairness, one player operating more than one character on more than one computer is not, so far as I know, a bannable offense.
The 3rd party software or hardware many people use to do so, however, is. "

Note : not sure how official is a Greenie vs a Blue statement by Blizz rules.

/salute

[mlwhitt]

I'm a big fan of glass house...

We live in a glass house, we police people who admit they have in the past violated the ToS willingly for discussing it and keep on top of policing any posts that promote it and it's all good.

Everyone knows someone who's e-bayed an account, or taken one over for a friend, it happens and it's by far not limited to multiboxers. In fact I'd wager that due to the number of boxers who value their accounts multiboxers are LESS likely to cheat than anyone else - we have more to lose (4x the effort on average.)

If I had thought of multiboxing BEFORE I stupidly ebayed accounts, I would have NEVER ebayed an account. I just had no idea Keyclone existed! But it's no excuse, and I learned my lesson - the hard way.

See the problem here is that the Dual-Boxing community does not support ebayers wither they are boxers are not. By admitting that you have 'ebayed' accounts you are actively admitting that you have chosen not to follow the EULA. People can make honest mistakes but ebaying an account really doesn't fall under an honest mistake. By posting anything about ebaying an account you are reflecting bad on the community even though you didn't mean to.

You can't assume that MB haters will separate the fact that your ebaying accounts was not related to your multiboxing. Instead all they will see is "OMG see here they are admitting to having ebayed accounts." It is that type of thing that everyone wants to avoid. Just because someone in the community once ebayed an account should not reflect on the entire community but unfortunately for us it does.

[mlwhitt]

FYI: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/th...sid=1&pageNo=1

Hum...

Am I misreading (not being a native english speaker) or the immediate response from the Greenie Palehoof to the OP still brings back some uncertainty for software-based multi-boxers ?

I quote :
"In fairness, one player operating more than one character on more than one computer is not, so far as I know, a bannable offense.
The 3rd party software or hardware many people use to do so, however, is. "

Note : not sure how official is a Greenie vs a Blue statement by Blizz rules.

/salute

Greenies are just people that volunteer to help be hall monitors so to speak. I would never take their word the same was a a blue. Pretty much Greenies are just people that Blizzard has a little extra faith in making valid postings, but I wouldn't place anything they say as being completely valid. I would ALWAYS go with what blue(s) say.

[bugilt]

Players in the barrens seem to fit into 4 categories.

1. I'm jealous of you and there for hate you. Chuck Norris Rocks!
2. OMG, how do you do that? (let me ask 100 questions.) wait!
3. I've seen it before, that is pro.
4. I'm to lagged out to see you.