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    Ok sounds good, I'll try that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by valkry View Post
    Wht do you think of Cl spam to 30% mana or so then LB to ill back up. CL spam also generates LS quicker than LB too.

    Though I wish they had kept the old t12 set bonus for basically perma fire ele
    Well I can imagine having (on lets say 378 gear levels) chain lightning replacing light bolt is more convenient as it's a small dps increase single target (provided you don't go oom), but also works on trash packs. Not sure what the easiest to pve box is, but there are quite some 3+ mob trash packs in the new heroics that you want to kill asap, so glyphing CL is a good thing. How would you manage the 30% mana mark then? Either way, glyphed CL and use it as a single target spell is quite a dps loss.

    I personally would go with a single target macro that spams lightning bolt, use a full fulmination stack now and then, and . use lava burst whenever it's off CD (if you have 2p T12 from justice points, the Fire Elemental cooldown will only be reduced by bolts). And have a dedicated button to spam chain lightning only on trash. It's so unbelievably good since they removed the CD that it's one of the most powerful aoe's in the game. And on really big trash packs, multiple Earthquakes combined with CL is just crazy. Don't bother with fire totems, flame shock spreading or EQ, basically just spam Chain lightning and everything will drop).
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    My shamans are not geared too well, but I did some experimenting.

    I average around 16k dps in heroics. On a couple bosses I made sure to remove lightning shield and my dps dropped down to 9k.

    Fulmination seems to be a very big part of the dps. Though I am not sure how to test how much dps is lost from not having lightning shield up and being attacked by any aoe spells, which I assume also trigger a lightning orb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnGabriel View Post
    My shamans are not geared too well, but I did some experimenting.

    I average around 16k dps in heroics. On a couple bosses I made sure to remove lightning shield and my dps dropped down to 9k.

    Fulmination seems to be a very big part of the dps. Though I am not sure how to test how much dps is lost from not having lightning shield up and being attacked by any aoe spells, which I assume also trigger a lightning orb.
    This you can see with recount(dmg meter)
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnGabriel View Post
    My shamans are not geared too well, but I did some experimenting.

    I average around 16k dps in heroics. On a couple bosses I made sure to remove lightning shield and my dps dropped down to 9k.

    Fulmination seems to be a very big part of the dps. Though I am not sure how to test how much dps is lost from not having lightning shield up and being attacked by any aoe spells, which I assume also trigger a lightning orb.
    Did you also remove earth stock from your rotation? using it would be a huge waste of dps if you aren't casting it with 9 orbs

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    I altered the main button of my 2-step macro to be, more or less:
    Flame Shock, LBx3, Earth Shock, LBx3, Earth Shock, LBx (1 or 2 I think)

    I tweak the Lightning Bolt filler at the end based on when Flame Shock needs to be refreshed on target dummies.
    Also, one requirement to make this work is the Glyph for lightning shield (I forget the name) that makes you never drop below 3 orbs. This makes a HUGE difference in many fights, since you occasionally get hit and lose an orb. This makes it so you never need to refresh it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bollwerk View Post
    I altered the main button of my 2-step macro to be, more or less:
    Flame Shock, LBx3, Earth Shock, LBx3, Earth Shock, LBx (1 or 2 I think)

    I tweak the Lightning Bolt filler at the end based on when Flame Shock needs to be refreshed on target dummies.
    Also, one requirement to make this work is the Glyph for lightning shield (I forget the name) that makes you never drop below 3 orbs. This makes a HUGE difference in many fights, since you occasionally get hit and lose an orb. This makes it so you never need to refresh it.
    Not too sure how a 2 step macro behaves in isboxer with ele shamans, but does it mean you cast 3x lightning bolt and then earth shock? Basically if the risk that you cast earth shock at less than 7 stacks of lightning shield it's a dps loss compared to casting a lightning bolt, on the other hand not casting earth shock at or above 7 stacks is a dps loss compared to casting a bolt.

    How does the 2nd macro of your 2step look like?

    And just to understand it: 2 step means button down it fires of first spell of macro one, button up it itterates through another macro, and keeps doing that correct?

    Also the glyph of lightning shield is mandatory for elemental shamans unless you use 4 pieces of pvp set gear (since the bonus there adds a stack when you take damage).
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    2nd macro is just Totems, then "endless" Lava Bolt.
    As for the first macro, I've tried with 4 LBs between shocks, but it messes up the timing on things and my dps seems to suffer, so it's a tradeoff for being lazy I guess. I just mash one button. I can micromanage things while playing solo and using no macros and my dps goes up by about 1k. But when boxing, that's not viable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bollwerk View Post
    I altered the main button of my 2-step macro to be, more or less:
    Flame Shock, LBx3, Earth Shock, LBx3, Earth Shock, LBx (1 or 2 I think)

    I tweak the Lightning Bolt filler at the end based on when Flame Shock needs to be refreshed on target dummies.
    Also, one requirement to make this work is the Glyph for lightning shield (I forget the name) that makes you never drop below 3 orbs. This makes a HUGE difference in many fights, since you occasionally get hit and lose an orb. This makes it so you never need to refresh it.
    If you want to see how useful earth shock is, then completely remove it from your dps rotation.

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    Haven't tried www.maxdps.com in a while.
    It used to allow you to plug in your class/spec, level, and the relative stats such as haste, mastery, etc.

    And then come up with an optimal DPS rotation.
    Which at least is a starting point for your own rotations.

    There might be another site like that, if maxdps is not around or updated?
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