Arena is now unnecessary 4.3

[Fat Tire]

4.3 Battleground Conquest Rewards
Originally Posted by Bashiok (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
In patch 4.3 we’re changing the daily battleground (BG) to reward 100 conquest for a win (up from 25). In addition, every non-rated BG that you win will also give you 50 conquest. There is no limit to how many BGs you can run this way, up to the normal conquest cap.

Our intent is to start acting even more on our Mists of Pandaria philosophies of encouraging players to approach the content they want to, how they want to, and be able to work toward meaningful player progression. Arenas and rated battlegrounds will still earn Conquest faster, but with this change you can now work your way up by running normal BGs, if you so choose.

Thought it deserved its own thread since this is pretty huge. Basically removes the need to arena except for 2200 and cheesy titles and with the advent of pve bosses dropping tons of weapons now I even see the need for 2200 not needed. I guess you could do arena to raise your point cap, but this gives you the option.

[Bollwerk]

About damn time!

[Void]

glad i dont play anymore they might as well just give the epics away for free. where is the challenge? Anyone can sit in bg's all day semi afk and get good gear. awesome

[cmeche]

glad i dont play anymore they might as well just give the epics away for free. where is the challenge? Anyone can sit in bg's all day semi afk and get good gear. awesome

You can do that now.....
T2 is not that big of a difference anyway.

[Meshuggenah]

glad i dont play anymore they might as well just give the epics away for free. where is the challenge? Anyone can sit in bg's all day semi afk and get good gear. awesome

Welcome to WoW :P Epics haven't been epic since 2007.

[Meshuggenah]

WTB delete post option PST!

[Meshuggenah]

glad i dont play anymore they might as well just give the epics away for free. where is the challenge? Anyone can sit in bg's all day semi afk and get good gear. awesome

That's an odd statement. The challenge is (or should be) playing and winning. If challenge is what you want, you should be happy that more players have the opportunity to gear on even terms so skill can decide who wins, instead of overgearing your opponent.

In fact, the best PvP games I've played are the ones where gear has very little or no impact on your ability to do well.

[Multibocks]

Holy shit this makes me mad!

[Oatboat]

make 1/4 of your customers mad all the while making the 3/4 that never arena very happy... I'd say its a good trade off.

[Svpernova09]

Some Napkin math:

Assuming you cap your points every week from BGs alone, it would take you 20 weeks to fully gear. If you run 2 heroics and trade your valor -> Conq every week (or do rated bgs and never raise your weekly conq cap) it will take you 17 weeks to full gear.

Head 2200
Neck 1250
Shoulders 1650
Back 1250
Chest 2200
Bracers 1250
Gloves 1650
Belt 1650
Pants 2200
Feet 1650
Ring1 1250
Ring2 1250
Trinket1 1650
Trinket2 1650
MH 2450
OH 950
Ranged 700
Total 26850

Why are people mad about this? You were either already doing arena or you were only getting half the current Conq set per season.