when the mages hit 80 well 75+ they got one shooted by players in top end new xpac gear.
at 85 the same thing all the specs i find is without a healer (someone spam healing you) you going to get killed by rouges/deathkights/cats/warrios/frost mages (even if your frost)
to be fair all clasess in the game
unless you can hide and nuke dmg. as a boxer they see you and nuke u down as fast as they can becouse they know it be bad if they don't my 85 mages i will not take into anything but AV.
just my cent
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