Running a Large Guild

[Zub]

I applaud you, sir. I couldn't figure that one out at first.

lol i was smiling as i wrote it :-)

you hibie, you.

[daviddoran]

It would seem that the initial confusion could have been avoided simply by informing the guild of the change in leadership, and that the clearing of the guild bank was going to the old GM (who should have thought of that in the first place, but he was probably with a gold craze at seeing the huge sum of gold he'd get.)

There are a ton of these types of guilds, they got to lvl 25 by sheer volume of people. There's a ton of people who start new toons, and tons of lower lvl guilds spamming invites, and a bunch of them are just doing it for the perks as well, get to 85 then quit to join their preferred raiding/PvP guild, since guild rep is easier to earn at max level anyway.

IMO just watch how much gold goes out to guild repairs, vs how much gets put in from guild challenges, and loot. If it's making a steady income, consider "promotions" like letting another guild rank get guild funded repairs, if they hit a quota of dungeon runs per week, or something like that.

[Apps]

Loot systems are terrible.

No doubt. I hate them. Really I find the best method of looting, is to use Blizzards UI roller, and let the RL set the loot settings. They all suck.

DKP lol.

I ain't used DKP since vanilla.

Actually, DKP is still very much alive and rolling in Very serious end game hard core raiding guilds... typically the top 3 you can guarantee use a form of DKP or HPEP or even some alteration of the DKP system.
Definitely 95% of the guilds out there dont use this anymore, for various reasons. The main one being, so many people are "instant gratification, loot please" wrath mentality, that they arent willing to put in effort or loyalty to obtain it... thumbs up for todays youth.

Anne E. Way, my point was even those 5% that do still use it, dont use the full extent of the DKP software and loot databases anymore. Its more for tracking who got what, especially when doing loot council stuff.

I seriously doubt Sam will enforce this, and remain to advise against it regardless.

[Catamer]

I guess it all boils down to ... do you want to raid... with others.

if you do, schedule a few events and see who joins you. You have the advantage of being able to fill a few empty slots with your extra characters so in theory you should always be able to run an event. Per say some raid events are going to be extremely hard to multibox. What I hated most about raiding was people not showing up and having to PUG for extras. Raiding when everyone shows up on time is a blast, raiding when people quit showing up sucks.

[Sam DeathWalker]

Well I am paying for repairs for all level 85's (bank got 1000g from some kind of challege) and we have like 300 or more level 85's and yet have not gotten enough guys together to do even one raid this week. None of my guys are 85 so I can't raid anyways (well not the raids that count).

A Bunch of people left and I had to kick like 50 who were inactive for over a month and under level 55 so as to make room for new members as we are still at 1000 members. Anytime someone leaves someone invites a new person .....

Ya its like true that no one in the guild knows anyone else. One raid leader left, probabaly out of frustration of not being able to get 10 guys out of 300 to raid lol ... And guild chat is almost always dead cept when I come online.

Otherwise though everything is great none problems loosing the guild and some are even impressed when I tell them "just google Sam DeathWalker" when they ask who I am.

The in game calandar and announcements are good enough to set up a raid I guess, none of the addons I saw were very helpful for setting up a raid.

One guy wanted the raid leader job but I told him no bank access but that Ill be paying for all repairs and that he should take the extra lootz that none wanted and buy flasks and stuffs with it but he said we can't advance that way (I have like 100K worth of items in the bank). I could make one tab open but I know I will forget and goof it up and lose 60K of stuffs.

Still if we keep getting more level 85s then we lose (which is the case since I took over) I think a raiding core will slowly build up. A level 25 guild with free repairs is attractive enough for raiders I thinks.

[Daeri]

It looks like your guild really is a lot of small independent groups of people under the same name. This will make it very difficult to even get a subset of people to raid together because they'll never feel a sense of community in such an ant farm. Usually the people who complain the most and prevent projects from going well are those who aren't even involved in any way..

In our guild, what really helped us getting started when we built our first roster was our web forum. You can think and debate about stuff without having to put an appointment first, write detailed reports so that everyone knows what has been decided so far, see what times and days people are available for raiding, organize and set up rules. People who didn't really care about raiding didn't visit the forum anyway.

Why kick all characters that hasn't been logged in for over a month ? Many people have alts they don't play everyday (not to mention every few months), I don't see the harm here unless there's a kind of limit ?

[moosejaw]

I think there is a 1000 limit on guild size. He booted those people to make room for active hibies.

[daanji]

250K? Damn.

On my server someone sold a Level 25 guild for 10K. It had no members left though as the guild had fallen apart.

[Sam DeathWalker]

Ya there is a 1000 member limit.

[Shania]

This thread caught my attention as on my realm there is someone trying to sell their lvl 25 Guild for 85k has around 270 members or so.

I wouldnt mind buying it, but im wondering what would happen to my gold and the guild if i bought it, if i was scammed somehow by the player.

Do I get all the gold back ? This guy has been the GM only for a few days, and I am unsure in how he got the guild, unless he owned it on a diff toon/account and transfered leadership to an alt and made it look like a different person/new member.


umm

Put up a MOTD that I'm the new GM, will rename the guild

You cant rename a guild, no feature added in wow at this point in time