Running a Large Guild

[Ughmahedhurtz]

You're like those rich guys that keep buying expensive cars.

Was there a point in there somewhere? Maybe I'm just tired and not seeing it.

[daanji]

Have you been sitting on the AH for months?

Well, that would explain why he isn't 85 yet on any of his toons.

[Sam DeathWalker]

Ya just making truegold on 8 guys a night and darkmoon cards with 2 millers (1-2 hours a night).

My seller has 4.4 Million in sales on him (course I had to buy like 3 million of herbs and whatnot).

Looks like we found something for people to spend gold on heh ....

[Littleburst]

Looks like we found something for people to spend gold on heh ....

Trolololol?

We being the community of 2009?

[Tonuss]

Was there a point in there somewhere? Maybe I'm just tired and not seeing it.

Nope, just a whimsical observation.

[Sam DeathWalker]

We being those of us who have so much gold that we lament "There is nothing worthwhile to spend my gold on!".

Just start buying up guilds.


We just got our website (some other guy doing all the layout and stuffs, cost me 8.99 a month seems resonable I guess)

http://sponsoredbywotlk.guildomatic.com/

[Masochisto]

Don't mistake holding the GM rank in game with being the GM of the guild. People won't follow you because of the rank you bought, and they will not do something just because you asked them to for free guild repairs.

If you truely want to lead a progression raiding guild you cannot really go about it the way you have.

A guild is like a "brand" or a sports team.

By buying the guild you have bypassed some people that felt that they (or one of their peers) should have been promoted to GM based on dedication to the guild or performance in the past. This means many of the players most loyal to the team in the past will not be loyal to the new incarnarnation of the guild. Members of the guilds previous raid teams are mot likely among these players, and they have most likely already left

By isolating the guild bank for your personal use you have communicatd to the guild that your personal needs are more important to you than the logistical needs of the guild. Regardless of how useful you may feel a guild bank is or is not to a raid team, the message you sent is strong and clear.

By proposing to rename the guild after yourself you have reinforced the message above - but also clearly indicatedt that the brand of the guild and the history of the guild are not important to you.

You will not find a strong raid leader willing to build a progression raid group in your honor. I commend you for playing the game how you want to play it and enjoying yourself; but don't make the mistake of thinking that you hold any claim on the members of the guilds you have bought. Membership loyalty has to be earned.

[Gomotron]

Don't mistake holding the GM rank in game with being the GM of the guild. People won't follow you because of the rank you bought, and they will not do something just because you asked them to for free guild repairs.

If you truely want to lead a progression raiding guild you cannot really go about it the way you have.

A guild is like a "brand" or a sports team.

By buying the guild you have bypassed some people that felt that they (or one of their peers) should have been promoted to GM based on dedication to the guild or performance in the past. This means many of the players most loyal to the team in the past will not be loyal to the new incarnarnation of the guild. Members of the guilds previous raid teams are mot likely among these players, and they have most likely already left

By isolating the guild bank for your personal use you have communicatd to the guild that your personal needs are more important to you than the logistical needs of the guild. Regardless of how useful you may feel a guild bank is or is not to a raid team, the message you sent is strong and clear.

By proposing to rename the guild after yourself you have reinforced the message above - but also clearly indicatedt that the brand of the guild and the history of the guild are not important to you.

You will not find a strong raid leader willing to build a progression raid group in your honor. I commend you for playing the game how you want to play it and enjoying yourself; but don't make the mistake of thinking that you hold any claim on the members of the guilds you have bought. Membership loyalty has to be earned.

Interesting first post.

I think that anyone who has interacted with SamD in the past has gotten to the point of just at this point, mainly because SamD is mostly resistant to any suggestions made by others. Which also begs the question of why he asks for advice to begin with when he ignores most of it.

That said, I agree that your points are valid with respect to renaming the guild and also by isolating the guild bank.

[Masochisto]

Interesting first post.

Thanks, I am actually a really old member that hasn't be active on the forum in years nad forgot his account info :-). I first joined and posted way back when Xzin had his great post on his hardward boxing setup. My account seemed to have been lost or closed when the forum move occurred last year, and I've just been too lazy since...

I'm actually familiar with Sam from his EQ boxing days, and his initial posts on this forum also. This particular post just struck a nerve enough that I registered a new account to respond :-)

[Gomotron]

Thanks, I am actually a really old member that hasn't be active on the forum in years nad forgot his account info :-). I first joined and posted way back when Xzin had his great post on his hardward boxing setup. My account seemed to have been lost or closed when the forum move occurred last year, and I've just been too lazy since...

I'm actually familiar with Sam from his EQ boxing days, and his initial posts on this forum also. This particular post just struck a nerve enough that I registered a new account to respond :-)

Welcome back!