Running a Large Guild

[Oatboat]

Well the only perk about keeping people in there that i wouldnt mind would be the guild challenges that get met and you get free Guild gold. So thats one bonus.

[Sam DeathWalker]

I got what I want from the guild aready (bank is closed and only used by me, but I do give officers the guild repair thing) and the perks.

Still Im not going to sit and do nothing, a guild that raids by pugs? What is that. What do real guilds do for organizaed raids?

Im not going to get involved in all the problems myself but I want to appoint some raid leaders and let them handle that, but what addons or software do the real guilds use to set up raids? And dont guilds have a forum for discussions? We had one in Hate (EQ) when I was a member for a short time.

[Apps]

I got what I want from the guild aready (bank is closed and only used by me, but I do give officers the guild repair thing) and the perks.

Still Im not going to sit and do nothing, a guild that raids by pugs? What is that. What do real guilds do for organizaed raids?

Im not going to get involved in all the problems myself but I want to appoint some raid leaders and let them handle that, but what addons or software do the real guilds use to set up raids? And dont guilds have a forum for discussions? We had one in Hate (EQ) when I was a member for a short time.

Seriously, I think you are making a mistake.

Yet, Ill answer your question.

Hard Core Raiding guilds...Use

DBM Addon
Threat meter Addon (like OMEN)
DPS Meter Addon (like Recount)
Magic alert Addons (like Decursive)
Healing target to target Addon (like Voodoo)
Gear management Addon (like WebDKP) - You may or may not choose to use the actual point system, to reward loyalty to the guild and raid on time prepairedness, however, this is entirely up to you... only the top 5 guilds on servers actually employ this portion of the addon. Most use it to track gear, and whos getting what only.

Use the ingame guild calendar to schedule raids and raid invites.

Dont rely on a guild webiste for communication, people quit doing that 2 yrs ago. You are ingame, communicate there. Important stuff goes in guild calendar, or guild notes.

Schedule weekly or bi-weekly meetings with your officers to ensure there is steady progression.
Perhaps assign general glass leaders.. I.e. a Tank Leader, who is most knowledgable about druids, pallies, DKs, warriors, etc... and has tanked most every boss in the game, knows all strats from tanking perspective.

You will want to also assign someone to handle the Raid consumables. Usually the Raid leader will appoint this person.. (I.e. someone to ensure they have mats for flasks, enchants, gems, access to Epic BoE patterns or items from guild ban
k etc..)


Regressing... you really are fine with the PuG situation right now. Honestly, it IS better for your healers to LEARN their tanks, and vise versa... However, now a days, Blizzard has almost removed the full MMO interaction from the game, so you can just pick up a few PuGs and continue to roll over stuff.

[Khatovar]

You appointed raid leaders, let them figure it out. I mean, you have no intention of raiding and you're just using the guild for perks and the bank, why impose all sorts of plans for an established guild when you aren't even going to be an active part of it? Maybe there's a 1000 people in the guild because they don't want to be bothered with structured raiding and srs wow bzns.

[Tsumi]

You appointed raid leaders, let them figure it out. I mean, you have no intention of raiding and you're just using the guild for perks and the bank, why impose all sorts of plans for an established guild when you aren't even going to be an active part of it? Maybe there's a 1000 people in the guild because they don't want to be bothered with structured raiding and srs wow bzns.

I agree with what Khatovar said. The raid leaders should do just that, assemble a raid team and lead them. Provide them the tools via guild leadership controls to do their jobs and let them raid. They should be able to handle recruiting and developing new raiders if need be.

I've been in huge non raiding casual guilds in the past and you will find that most of the people in those type of guilds are there for the perks and the freedom to do whatever they want when they want. If they end up wanting to raid they can speak to the raid leaders and figure out what they need to do to raid. Otherwise they will just keep on doing what they always have been doing.

I would love to get leadership of a high level guild just for perks as well!

[Alemi]

I mean, you have no intention of raiding and you're just using the guild for perks and the bank, why impose all sorts of plans for an established guild when you aren't even going to be an active part of it?

^

You're not going to be doing it, why are you going to tell others how to set up their raids and what addons they have to use? What if they just want to use loot council, or /roll for it. Who are you to tell them how they should raid?

You're the guild leader. That and a buck will get you something off the dollar menu at McDonalds.

[Sam DeathWalker]

Well its not as easy as it seems the first sale was disaster. Guy sold me a guild for 275K (level25 but fewer members) then next day I asked what to do with the junk in the bank and he said give it to him. As we clearing out the bank some other member reports us for "guild bank theft" my guy gets 24 hour banned. I come back and guy that reported us is Guild Leader. I fire off to CS that they cost me 275,000 gold, they spend 2 hours getting me all the money back and banning the guy that sold me the guild (for "guild distruction").

On this one, armed with better knowledge, this guy never let anyone have bank access. Gave me guild for 250K (plus I going to pay some guy 20K also). I made it so no one could even see what was in the guild bank. Didn't do anything for a day or two. Put up a MOTD that I'm the new GM, will rename the guild and if anyone had monies in guild bank or items I would refund. Things still smooth.

250K is a lot but a level 25 guild is a lot also, those perks are really really going to cut my leveling time. That level 21 perk summon all raid or group members (and it works for each character you have) is a boxers dream. Just have some low level alts whereever you want to go and bang all yur guys are there.

He offered it for 160K by the way but I told him I would pay 250K to make the deal go faster, it was just to perfect with 1000 members and the big fact he never let anyone have bank access.


Thanks for the list of addons, I guess Ill look more into the in game stuffs and forget about a web site.


My advise is if you buy a guild, have one account the GM, have another account (best not on the same bn account) with a low level character clear the bank, that way if the low level gets banned your main is still GM. Or just prohibit deposits and let everyone have access to the items and gold and say that they have 2 weeks to get whatever they want.

[Tonuss]

250k for a level 25 guild sounds like a bargain to me. Especially with that many characters. If a decent percentage of the characters are active the guild bank could make a lot gold from the 10% generated from looting mobs and from completing some of the weekly guild challenges.

[cmeche]

All depends which way you want to go.
If you want the guild to grow(and raid), going to have to "give out" some good reasons to join your guild...gold, repair bill, perks.
I see alot of people jumping ship by just hearing about the leadership change....good or bad.

Any insight on the cost of ownership? I see guilds for sale all the time but not sure what a "casual" lvl 25 guild sales for. Great acquisition for a boxer!

[Apps]

Great question cmeche. I want to know too.