New management discussion

[lightstriker]

Thank You for everything you have done, Ellay.
Thank You for keeping the site going, Lax.

[drarkan]

Although Rob is a great guy and did in fact provide valuable support to the site with an excellent product for its time the simple fact is that IsBoxer just destroys Keyclone in any resonable comparison of the two products on their merits only.

Although it is very harsh to say the difference between the two products is so great that steering those new to boxing to Keyclone is almost a diservice. I know that many will disagree with that statement but sorry just calling it as I see it, well calling it as it is.

If the situation were reveresed and keyclone was the superior product I would be mad at Lax for taking down the link but just on the merits of the products there is no other conclusion except IsBoxer just blows away all competition, including the pwnboxer stuff and I am in favor of him posting here as well, and it might be time to change that policy and for Lax to show that the site is in fact all inclusive. Let the quality of the products speak for themselves and let all speak on all products.

And ya Jamba needs some kind of boost, how long can someone put in so much work for zero finacial gain. Lax has income from his product and thus can afford to put more time into it and make it the best, how much longer can Jamba servive as a labor of love?

I agree 100%. I left using PWNBoxer 5 or 6 months ago in part cause Tim was trashing Lavishsoft and their products, saying things about the company using their product for ill gain. Uppon my own research this was learned to be untrue, and within that research I learned that ISBoxer was a supperior product and that using ISboxer VS Pwnboxer is much like using Adobe Photoshop CS6 and Microsoft Paint for windows 3.11. Though Paint will get the job done for making an Image, Photoshop will make the image look spectacular!

I have tried Keyclone a little, Pwnboxer for a few years, then now ISBoxer, and its clearly the better of the ones I've tried. If you want to compete, then try to beat the competition by making a better product, then there will be a better discussion on what product is better, as of right now, ISBoxer beats the competition in all situations.

[MiRai]

Having a blanket amnesty for all those previously banned would be a fine gesture on Lax's part and show he is not concerned about any competition from inferior products, and that the site is in fact all inclusive.

Lax should probably consult you on any future decisions he decides to make.

[Zub]

The various products around here catter for a different crowd, some will like the simplicity of keyclone and some will prefer the depth of ISB.
For my part i believe that a total newbie would prefer starting with KC, whereas a more accomplished boxer will find what it needs with ISB. I can't comment on other products as I haven't used them but i'm pretty sure they are in one or the other categories.

The problem (if there is one) is not about what the products can or can't do, it is about letting the community know about them and letting the community make its own decisions instead of saying "Take this, it's the best anyway".

[Starbuck_Jones]

This 12 page thread makes me look around kinda shifty eyed. I haven't multi-boxed in a long time. Its been a little over a year and a half now because WoW has implemented enough changes to bypass the reasons I started in the first place. I consider this to be one of the premier forums for macro and multi-tasking knowledge there is.

Personally I am a little disappointed with the Keyclone situation, but I am not involved, nor am I privy to the negotiations of the site changing hands. It's mostly because Keyclone was all there was when I started and Rob is a cool guy. Like he said, shit works.

Dual-Boxing.com will still be the top of my bookmark list and I'll still visit. Keep the torch lit.

[Tonuss]

Those new to boxing should be steered to the best product.

That is at least partially subjective. Anyone who gets serious about multiboxing will ask, and that's where the forum really helps new multiboxers. Depending on a banner to tell you what is the best is never a good idea, IMO.

[Apps]

WOW!

I am astonished as to how long this thread is... silly. Me wonders how many Trolls are open for business right now?

I consider myself a realist and a "responsiblist".
It not my site; I didnt buy it; its not paying for any of my stuff; Its not playing my toons; its not my responsibility; change is both inevitable and guaranteed. Subsequently, my opinion is just that... opinion.

What I do control is my choice, I like the level of information here, thus I stay and remain active. If not, then Id choose to go else where and make my own forums.

/dead horse

[Ughmahedhurtz]

Having a blanket amnesty for all those previously banned would be a fine gesture on Lax's part and show he is not concerned about any competition from inferior products, and that the site is in fact all inclusive.

[Ñightsham]

This is the 1st Multi-Boxing site that I came to when looking into playing multiple characters on World of Warcraft and it didn't take long to graduate to ISBoxer as well.

Glad to see both under one roof (so to speak).

Thanks again to all that contribute here

[Redbeard]

Not sure how I missed this post for so long.

Have had nothing but good interactions with Lax and his product so far, heres to the future.
Had nothing but good interactions with Rob and his product in the past, so hope all goes well for him too.

Also, I am making a dps bear Svper. To spite you.

That is all.