New management discussion

[Shania]

Hm interesting. I dont use other programs only isboxer, however I agree why remove other links ?
I though this site was dual boxing, multi boxing, not isboxer boxing ?

Though when anyone asks me what do I use, I always say, look up isboxer it's awesome, easy to use, sometmes people assume Im using HKN, and are surprised when I say I never tried it or know much on it.

Why not have other links there anyway ?

Anyway Grats I guess on new ownership. /shrugs

Just write easier guides for noobs and I be happy :P

[Khatovar]

Hm interesting. I dont use other programs only isboxer, however I agree why remove other links ?
I though this site was dual boxing, multi boxing, not isboxer boxing ?

Why has been multiple times in this thread and in the sticky.

There has been no removal of any other links on this site. You can still find information, help and download links for everything, including Keyclone, all over this site.

When there were no links up there, this was a site about multiboxing. When both links were there, it was still a site about multiboxing. It didn't become a site about multiboxing with ISBoxer or Keyclone.

Nothing else has changed. It's the exact same site that it was last week.

Why not have other links there anyway ?

Because there's at least a dozen different multiboxing products out there and no one wants to have to scroll down half a page just to actually see the forums or be required to use ctrl+f to find the link to the chat among all the other junk up there.

[drarkan]

Ok I tried to read through the whole thread, but I get a few pages at a time, then life pulls me away. I stopped at page 7, so anything between then and now I will not read till a later date.

First, CONGRATS LAX!! This site will be well taken care of from a person who is the owner of a multiboxing software which means, you know what to put into a site dedicated to multiboxing discussion.

I don't see this site being merged with ISBoxer's forum, why would it. Its setup as a community already for those who have ISBoxer licenses. I don't see this site being setup in such a way to chop half the community who don't use ISBoxer, so yes, I agree with Lax's decision to not merge the two sites. I also don't see it going the direction of MB.com where its so undermaintained that you get spam lingering on the fourms for 3-10 hours per day, due to the fact that the site owner (we all know who it is, lets not get into a discussion about opinion) has so much on his plate, I'm sure the luxury of 1-2 hours to scan the site, reply to posts just isn't there. So spam gets to linger, and the other mods who run it, don't seem to scan the site often enough or have the tools in place to prevent it. Here, theres more activity, more people to discuss things with, and an overall feeling of community.

Which brings me to my next point. Ok, lax is the owner, its his choice to post what links on the site to what product. I agree with him totally on that regard, being a business owner myself, being that I wouldn't want someone posting up a sign in my store, telling my customers to buy their product that is in direct competition with me, I would loose business. However, I use ISBoxer, I used to use Pwnboxer, but not anymore. ISBoxer to me is a better product. Shit for the price, and what it has to offer, I am surprised its that cheep of a subscription for the whole year! Now thats thinking of community!

Keyclone, now I understand your feelings on being upset for loosing your link. You also provide a product which is useful for multiboxers. Lax is open to having the link, under the similar circumstances you and him had to pay Ellay previously. Now I'm not sure what the fee is, but if you want the link perhaps instead of bickering with Lax, why not discuss with him the options to have the link back up there.

Now links to other multiboxing tools. Well the WIKI is still there! That has a list of the multiboxing tools available. Keyclone is there. HKN is there, and HKN doesn't have a link here... whats the argument, advertising costs money, but you have the best advertising tool right at your fingertips. THE FORUM! When potential multiboxers come to a site, they will search the thread for people's opinions on a product rather than a link to the company's own promotion. So really the link is only half of the full deal.

Now I think I was going to say more, but its late and I'm tired. Bottom line, don't fight, get along, play wow/EQ/Rift/Eve and all the other multiboxable games out there, and HAVE FUN GODDAMNIT!

[raylion]

I just want to add my thanks to Ellay for keeping this site going over the years and wish Lax all the best in taking the site forward...and not forgetting to thank the mods who do a great job.

Thanks to you all!

[Kruschpakx4]

I still plan on being around, the community is important to me, and I read the site pretty much every day, although I don't post much. No one wants to hear about "in my day I took on 10 baddies with no multiboxing software while brushing my teeth!" So it's mostly just appreciating that the style of play is still alive and kicking and seeing what is going on.
I haven't myself been able to multibox for going on a year and a half now. Had a baby, moved. I can't even find enough time in my day to go to the gym let alone game it up like I used to. I do dearly miss those days, and I felt it was quite unfair to the community that I wasn't able to continually improve us. Lax has great things planned and knowing that it is in good hands made the transition much easier to gulp down.
It's still my home, just without the responsibility

gonna make an eye of storm movie dedicated to you, as your eye of storm movie forced me to multibox 3 years ago

movie is up http://www.dual-boxing.com/showthread.php?t=45183

[highdesi]

In my opinion, lax should put the link to the wiki(or any place that has the list of multiboxing software) on the top and remove ISboxer link.

This way new people who sign up can see all the multi boxing or keybroadcasting software.

[drarkan]

What ? You're not using an automatic addon updater such as curse client ?

Jamba isn't on curse far as I know, you have to manually update it.

For me, the links to keyclone and Isboxer at the top weren't considered advertisement spots, but links to multiboxing software that people could use. I always thought that the banners were paid advertisement spots.

I never considered it to be advertising really, thought that this site was maybe promoting those two software's myself. Advertising, is more like flashy banners, with slogans, key features, and a blurb as to why they're the best, "Blast your enemies with (insert multiboxing software title here)

That's just some BS to remove the competition out. Ive been using keyclone for years, no problems and when there is, Rob does put out an update. So to say that keyclone is not working or broken is not the case and Rob does answer emails and respond to people's questions. Don't use that as an excuse to remove the link to keyclone, that's just stupid. Shit, remove the link to the wiki because that is never updated and is completely outdated.

All I know if this site turns into isboxer promotion site, I'll just find a new boxing site to go to.

Hell if you want a site with no competition, head over to multiboxing.com... there they edit out any terms regarding isboxer.com, keyclone.com, or anyone else. Its all him, and nobody else! I don't agree with that shit more, the stuff happening here, thats nothing!

In my opinion, lax should put the link to the wiki(or any place that has the list of multiboxing software) on the top and remove ISboxer link.

This way new people who sign up can see all the multi boxing or keybroadcasting software.

Hey man, if you want it done that way, then buy the site from Lax and do it yourself. When I searched for multiboxing software or key-broadcasting software, I found a different wiki here http://www.wowwiki.com/Multiboxing_software where it even, whats that, yes it includes pwnboxer, but ISBoxer and Keyclone are on the list too, but they come up first. Oh and when I did a google search for multiboxing software, I see that Lax and Tim both paid for advertising space on google but Lax's product comes up first!

Oh and about the competition, if you put ISBoxer beside all other products, you will find that the daily support, (chat, skype, forum, ingame) lax is there. Functionallity, I have used pwnboxer, and will never go back after using ISBoxer. Its definitely premium product which covers all areas of multiboxing, so much, the manual to use it is multiple pages long. Thanks to Ualaa

As for Keyclone I think its pretty simplistic in functionality. I downloaded the trial for it, saw that it was pretty complicated in setup being that you needed to script your codes from scratch, and I quickly left that and moved on.

[MiRai]

What ? You're not using an automatic addon updater such as curse client ?

Jamba isn't on curse far as I know, you have to manually update it.

JAMBA has been available on Curse for awhile now.

[zenga]

Only sensible thing left after all the discussion, is to ask blizzard to ban all keybroadcasting software and only allow multiboxing if you use multiple keyboards and couple of mice. Let logitech, steelseries and razor fight over the banner then, and the really skilled multiboxers can also make a buck out of it then, as they'll promote the next big ass mouse with 5 trackballs on it.

[MiRai]

Only sensible thing left after all the discussion, is to ask blizzard to ban all keybroadcasting software and only allow multiboxing if you use multiple keyboards and couple of mice. Let logitech, steelseries and razor fight over the banner then, and the really skilled multiboxers can also make a buck out of it then, as they'll promote the next big ass mouse with 5 trackballs on it.