Anybody tried an all-cleric team?

[JamieW]

I can see an argument for removing life and death concord if you don't want to manage the procs, I'd put those points into determination and more passive buffs from Cabalist (particularly, the +3 radius on AoE's).

I hadn't bothered with this particular passive buff (the additional radius on AE damage spells). With the primary AE damage from this spec being chain damage (Obliterate/Decays, Soul Drain and Bound Fate) vs. traditional AE damage (Circle of Oblivion is only one I can think of), I didn't think that it would be that great of a buff.

Anybody know for sure if the +radius passive buff helps out on the chained AE abilities?

[Apatheist]

I hadn't bothered with this particular passive buff (the additional radius on AE damage spells). With the primary AE damage from this spec being chain damage (Obliterate/Decays, Soul Drain and Bound Fate) vs. traditional AE damage (Circle of Oblivion is only one I can think of), I didn't think that it would be that great of a buff.

Anybody know for sure if the +radius passive buff helps out on the chained AE abilities?

It effects bound fate, circle of oblivion, soul drain, etc. Anything that says it hits more than one target in the tooltip.

3 yards doesn't sound like much, but when you consider the majority of AoE effects are 7 yards, it's almost 50% more range on all your AoE's.

It's even better with bound fate, since BF is a "chain"-like effect from target to target. You could potentially hit players up to 40 yards away as long as there's enough people staggered between to chain the effect. Pretty win. It also helps a lot by preventing targets running out of soul drain range before it goes off, which it's pretty easy to do.

[jca]

I've been playing with working in a bit more cab but am hitting a bit of a bump in the road. Cab just doesn't have any synergy with Justicar. I could give up my Sent sub-specs but not my Justicar's. DoL is just too good.

Perhaps I'll try 14 cab in my Inquisicar specs (which is what I'm doing now), drop the Sent sub-specs and go something like 20-24 cab in 6 Warden sub-specs.

Something else I'm wondering about. Since it's obviously a bit hard to keep track of everyone's decays, would it be worthwhile to play with only 4/5 AfD? That should make your Tyranny's line up with your decay regen. Fill in the gaps with BF and CoS. Seems like the only time that would be a problem is if you went a full 51 for SoA. Thoughts?

[jca]

For Inquisitor-heavy specs, I think not specing LaDA is a big mistake. BoD hits HARD !!! If you're spec'd 5/5 you don't really even have to monitor procs. You're pretty much guarenteed to have them at certain points in your rotations. Then just jump, pop your BoD + other instants and it's done. There's really not a lot of micromanagement involved other than making sure you don't interupt casts when you do it.

[Apatheist]

I've been playing with working in a bit more cab but am hitting a bit of a bump in the road. Cab just doesn't have any synergy with Justicar. I could give up my Sent sub-specs but not my Justicar's. DoL is just too good.

Perhaps I'll try 14 cab in my Inquisicar specs (which is what I'm doing now), drop the Sent sub-specs and go something like 20-24 cab in 6 Warden sub-specs.

Something else I'm wondering about. Since it's obviously a bit hard to keep track of everyone's decays, would it be worthwhile to play with only 4/5 AfD? That should make your Tyranny's line up with your decay regen. Fill in the gaps with BF and CoS. Seems like the only time that would be a problem is if you went a full 51 for SoA. Thoughts?

I've tried leaving tyranny with a 6 second cooldown, but most of the spells strength is being able to spam it on the move to maintain pressure. It's not really about the decay damage. Even without decay, it's like 300x5 damage per GCD. The decay bonus is just icing on the cake.

I don't find I have an issue with conviction. You still have to keep sanction on cooldown and spam bolt of judgment as your primary nuke. I set up a priority keymap to use bound fate and bolt when BF is on cooldown, since BF does better damage even on a single target.

[Apatheist]

For Inquisitor-heavy specs, I think not specing LaDA is a big mistake. BoD hits HARD !!! If you're spec'd 5/5 you don't really even have to monitor procs. You're pretty much guarenteed to have them at certain points in your rotations. Then just jump, pop your BoD + other instants and it's done. There's really not a lot of micromanagement involved other than making sure you don't interupt casts when you do it.

I have to agree. Especially in PvP. The proc buff itself lasts 60 seconds, which is amazing. You can hold onto it until you see a priority target and then just destroy them with bound fate and an instant depravity. Even with 0 crits, it's pretty much a guaranteed one-shot to remove a healer or a DPS that's giving you trouble.

[jca]

Good points. Do you find you're using Vex at all?

[Apatheist]

I spec'd 5/5 mental resilience and 2/2 contempt - so yes! I use vex sort of like a preemptive HoT. If I'm moving and there are only a few targets in range, or they're not stacked close enough for tyranny, I'll mash vex on everything before I stop and start single targeting. That way, I've got 15 seconds of a huge HoT ticking away while I burst people. Vex is actually the biggest reason I'd have trouble giving up too much in Inquisitor, even though I'd love to play around with improved maelstrom and the passive buffs to bound fate.

[jca]

I use Vex a lot myself but was wondering how it fit in with a cab-heavy rotation.

I think I can squeeze a few points to get 20 in cab, so I'm gonna give that a whirl.

[Apatheist]

http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=10...V0VVx.Exobxxoq

There's my "final" build. I've done a ton of testing in the last few days with a bit more in Cabalist, bit more in Inquisitor. Even tried dumping some DPS stuff and trying for 5/5 shield of faith in Justicar (not worth the huge damage loss).

This build seems the best mix of ranged AoE, healing and single burst. Also supports the rest of your warfront group really well with the DoL and procs from reparation. Took the extra point out of warden (Justicar only needs 11) and put it into determination.