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    Default Wondering why shammies DPS is so damn low

    Hi All,

    I'm wondering why my dps is low on the shamanteam.
    Current item level is around 360-362, DPS in Zul Aman on the trash was around 7500-9000k.
    Trash in for example VP HC gets to 11k - 15k , which is more on par as far as i know, but still low.
    Last week i did 30-40k (!!!!!) on the croc in Lost City HC, he went down really , really fast (I suspect the little crocs hat their part in it). After that is was back to 12k or something, even on him.

    I am using Mercurio's macros (2step) on the shaman.
    Link to shaman 1
    Link to shaman 2
    Link to shaman 3

    Someone got any ideas what the hell i'm doing wrong?
    Kul Tiras - EU: [A] Prot Pala +3x Shaman + Mage @ 110
    Lots of others around 85

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pallarfo View Post
    Hi All,

    I'm wondering why my dps is low on the shamanteam.
    Current item level is around 360-362, DPS in Zul Aman on the trash was around 7500-9000k.
    Trash in for example VP HC gets to 11k - 15k , which is more on par as far as i know, but still low.
    Last week i did 30-40k (!!!!!) on the croc in Lost City HC, he went down really , really fast (I suspect the little crocs hat their part in it). After that is was back to 12k or something, even on him.

    I am using Mercurio's macros (2step) on the shaman.
    Link to shaman 1
    Link to shaman 2
    Link to shaman 3

    Someone got any ideas what the hell i'm doing wrong?
    Your helm has a crit cogwheel ..change it to haste.. NEVER enchant..gem for CRIt..never! always reforge crit into haste first or mastery if you cant make it haste.

    On your shoulders you reforged haste into hit.. you should have reforged CRIt into hit. Your chest you reforged haste into spirit and you should have reforged CRIT into spirit. you get the idea? never BUFF your crit.. you want these stats as priority in this order HIT until capped>>HASTE>.MASTERY then crit.

    you follow that rule and you will see a very large increase in your dps
    Currently 5 Boxing 5 Protection Paladins on Whisperwind Alliance
    The Power of Five!!! ( short video )

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    Thanks, gonna give it a try. It's what several (rawr) sites/addons came up with.
    Kul Tiras - EU: [A] Prot Pala +3x Shaman + Mage @ 110
    Lots of others around 85

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    Unless the new thing is just to spam lightning bolt.. crit is the least valuable stat for ele atm. IF this has changed I'm un aware of it. My guys are only 340ish gear and do 12k average dps. Ill see if i can link their gear later. I also use mercs 2 step macros.
    Currently 5 Boxing 5 Protection Paladins on Whisperwind Alliance
    The Power of Five!!! ( short video )

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    That's the thing, the 12k dps is what they're pulling for ages now. Did try the reforge on the one with engineering, she was 2nd with 14k on Asaad.
    Kul Tiras - EU: [A] Prot Pala +3x Shaman + Mage @ 110
    Lots of others around 85

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    Keep in mind also that Elemental Shaman DPS blows right now. Nearly every other class/spec has higher DPS from my experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bollwerk View Post
    Keep in mind also that Elemental Shaman DPS blows right now. Nearly every other class/spec has higher DPS from my experience.
    Ele shaman dps is among the top right now, bar a couple of fights with low hp add phases.
    Everything that is fun in life is either bad for your health, immoral or illegal!

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    Quote Originally Posted by zenga View Post
    Ele shaman dps is among the top right now, bar a couple of fights with low hp add phases.
    I dunno WTF I'm doing wrong then in raids. I'm barely out-DPSing the tanks in 25 man raids. I've already spent hours perfecting my spell rotations and macro settings on dummies, but in Firelands, my DPS BLOWS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bollwerk View Post
    I dunno WTF I'm doing wrong then in raids. I'm barely out-DPSing the tanks in 25 man raids. I've already spent hours perfecting my spell rotations and macro settings on dummies, but in Firelands, my DPS BLOWS.
    You must be doing something seriously wrong then, in your rotation, gearwise or with stat priority. On tank/spankt fights like baleroc and shannox hc I can easily go over 30k (that is even without keeping flame shock up on dogs for cheating the meters). On most fights I'm #1 or #2, except the gimmic fights like the bird boss and the legs dude. Even on ragnaros 25k+ is pretty doable.

    Our other elemental shaman was in T11 4-6k behind me on several fights, and she often is among top 5 now in our 25m raids.

    Ele shaman is in one of the best conditions it ever was in pve.
    Everything that is fun in life is either bad for your health, immoral or illegal!

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    Quote Originally Posted by zenga View Post
    You must be doing something seriously wrong then, in your rotation, gearwise or with stat priority. On tank/spankt fights like baleroc and shannox hc I can easily go over 30k (that is even without keeping flame shock up on dogs for cheating the meters). On most fights I'm #1 or #2, except the gimmic fights like the bird boss and the legs dude. Even on ragnaros 25k+ is pretty doable.

    Our other elemental shaman was in T11 4-6k behind me on several fights, and she often is among top 5 now in our 25m raids.

    Ele shaman is in one of the best conditions it ever was in pve.
    If you're inclined to take a look, here is our WoL log from last night's kill of Shannox - http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/r...?s=3863&e=4305
    I didn't do quite as bad as I'd thought. I was #11. It bugs me though that an Enhance shaman in worse gear did more dps by a decent margin.

    My gear is still mostly ilvl 359, with 4 ilvl 378 items. I reforge crit into mastery and gem for int, int/mastery and int/spirit.

    Enchants are usually int when possible, then mastery or haste.
    Armory - Note that I logged out in pvp gear, but I'll take any advice on talents and glyphs (primary is my pve talent set, secondary is for pvp)

    My rotation priority is standard, as far as I know. FS >> LvB >> CL/LB (depending on fight) >> ES at 8/9 stacks.

    The only thing I can think of that I need to work on is making sure my Fire Elemental is up when possible. I tend to forget about it a lot.

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