Herp Derp Cleave's Revenge

[daanji]

LOL! I watched one of your videos from today, about mid-way through this is the conversation

Paladin: Do you have an arena junkies account?
Shodokan: uh, yeah. I can't post in the gladiator forums
Paladin: Did you know you can stream?
Shodokan: uh, yeah. I'm streaming right now?
Paladin: haha, uh, what? *silence*
Shodokan: I have a stream up
Paladin: Ah, probably no one is watching it eh?
Shodokan: We had about 20 people watching it
Paladin: Silence

A while later he actually logs into arena junkies and confirms it is being streamed. I just thought this was hilarious

[daanji]

On serious note, I do have a few questions if you don't mind answering them.

I watched a lot of your recorded play.

How do you use chains of ice? I almost never have a frost rune available due to howling blast spam.

Do you have a DPS macro that blows all your cool downs?
Icebound fortitude, Pillar of Frost, Anti-magic shell, DPS Trinket.

When I try to make a kill, I use empower rune weapon + tazik shocker (4800 instant nature damage) and spam Obliterate and Frost Strike. Should I stack necrotics prior to doing this?

Do you ever use your Death Grip in a focus based macro? I tend to focus an annoying class such as a mage, hunter, or healer and keep them in my AoE range. That way they get damaged and interrupted.

I have a focus-based round robin blood tap + strangulate macro. When I use it, I smash the button and rely on the natural spinning of my toons to eventually face the target and silence my focus (usually a healer). Of course, this doesn't always work. Do you have better system?

When one of my DKs get low, I will use Pet Sacrifice + Lichborne + Death Coil from all DKs to heal the low DKs. This works very well, but it also kills my pressure and my DPS for those 10 seconds. Do you do something similar or better?


Do you conserve runic power before you try to burst some one down? I tend to conserve it prior to using Lichborne + Death Coil self healing.


I've been toying with the idea of a stealth necrotic strike against melee teams. For this, I would set my focus to a melee opponent that is in range while I train a different opponent such as a healer. My focus would be getting necrotic strikes. Once enough stacks are up, I instantly switch and smash my burst macro. Do you think this would work?

Lastly, do you use death coil much for a ranged attack? When I get rooted and all death grips are down, I can't do much other than howling blast, death and decay, and death coil. I suppose I could make a attack sequence that would do Howling Blast + Death Coil on a target at range to keep up pressure when I'm locked down.



Do you control your PvP trinket individually or just do both toons at the same time regardless? Anything else individually? (aside from round robin)

[Shodokan]

On serious note, I do have a few questions if you don't mind answering them.

I watched a lot of your recorded play.

How do you use chains of ice? I almost never have a frost rune available due to howling blast spam.

Never unless i REALLY need to root something like a shaman

Do you have a DPS macro that blows all your cool downs?
Icebound fortitude, Pillar of Frost, Anti-magic shell, DPS Trinket.

Yes

When I try to make a kill, I use empower rune weapon + tazik shocker (4800 instant nature damage) and spam Obliterate and Frost Strike. Should I stack necrotics prior to doing this?

In 3's you should do what your comp does best... damage. Stack necrots if you are against a target like a priest or shaman, straight up damage (frost as much as possible) vs stuff like druids and paladin

Do you ever use your Death Grip in a focus based macro? I tend to focus an annoying class such as a mage, hunter, or healer and keep them in my AoE range. That way they get damaged and interrupted.

Never, i use it to interrupt heals exclusively or to get back on a target.

I have a focus-based round robin blood tap + strangulate macro. When I use it, I smash the button and rely on the natural spinning of my toons to eventually face the target and silence my focus (usually a healer). Of course, this doesn't always work. Do you have better system?

Yes i do. I have a similar macro i put into my burst macro, when bursting i silence. So i just continue to mash that button and hope it comes out much like you. I plan to change it to something else though soon, i haven't refined a lot of stuff i should.

When one of my DKs get low, I will use Pet Sacrifice + Lichborne + Death Coil from all DKs to heal the low DKs. This works very well, but it also kills my pressure and my DPS for those 10 seconds. Do you do something similar or better?

How do you death col from all dks to 1 without focus? If that is possible i'd be glad to know. Also i would not do that i just do the healing from their own death coils and make sure to pop it all at once to get ALL toons up (from cleave damage etc) while my healer focuses on my most damaged target

Do you conserve runic power before you try to burst some one down? I tend to conserve it prior to using Lichborne + Death Coil self healing.

One howling blast basically gives you enough runic to frost strike, so i keep them built in together. I do not conserve for lichborne because if your healer is any good you should only need to use it under dire circumstances and the lost damage means you failed to output more pressure which could get you the win. The amount of howling blasts you can get from 4 frost runes is absurd, so just use that for 3 death coils.

I've been toying with the idea of a stealth necrotic strike against melee teams. For this, I would set my focus to a melee opponent that is in range while I train a different opponent such as a healer. My focus would be getting necrotic strikes. Once enough stacks are up, I instantly switch and smash my burst macro. Do you think this would work?

Bad idea. You need all the damage and anti-healing vs the target you are pushing, the idea is to push a target and either get a kill or force defensive cooldowns from them + healers and then switch to healers if they are not your main target. A good example of this is me sitting on lock vs a spriest/lock/shaman team till the shaman pops NS on him, he teleports and a spirit link is dropped.

Lastly, do you use death coil much for a ranged attack? When I get rooted and all death grips are down, I can't do much other than howling blast, death and decay, and death coil. I suppose I could make a attack sequence that would do Howling Blast + Death Coil on a target at range to keep up pressure when I'm locked down.

Awesome suggestion that i do not use. I normally played with a priest so now that i'm playing with a newly found friend (2900 glad paladin) i will incorporate this!

Do you control your PvP trinket individually or just do both toons at the same time regardless? Anything else individually? (aside from round robin)

I will SOMETIME switch windows for things like sap etc, especially in 3's. But otherwise i just blow them all at once since i mostly use them as anti-aoe fear and anti-root.


Hope that helped.