After 1 week. My thoughts on dual to quad DK pvp

[Koralon]

Swapped 2 DK's to DW specs without annihilation. Removed obliterate from cast bar and changed to Icy Touch glyph. On test dummies, initial burst of the 2 DKs DW is consistently higher than the 2 DKs using 2H.

With nerves of cold steel, my hit is now over 8%. Should be able to do even better after restat to strength or resilence.

Sadly Dummies are different than Players, I noticed a significant loss of burst in pvp, i usually kill things in 2 seconds, with DW it was taking forever 5-10 seconds, tried 3 different dualwield specs... all failed miserably when I queued up for WSG, even with razorice stacked to full from all DKs it was still taking longer to kill ppl...

On Dummies you're just sitting there meleeing away, which almost never happens in PVP.

EDIT: Here is why 2h is better for multiboxing pvp... Even with us spamming IWT we still face away from the opponent quite often, while dual-wielding you could miss out on/delay 2 swings for a decent amount of time which gimps dual-wields dps. Where as when using a 2hander your swing timer is a lot longer, and hardly miss out on any white hits.

Stick with 2handers if you're pvping.

[Mercbeast]

Sadly Dummies are different than Players, I noticed a significant loss of burst in pvp, i usually kill things in 2 seconds, with DW it was taking forever 5-10 seconds, tried 3 different dualwield specs... all failed miserably when I queued up for WSG, even with razorice stacked to full from all DKs it was still taking longer to kill ppl...

On Dummies you're just sitting there meleeing away, which almost never happens in PVP.

EDIT: Here is why 2h is better for multiboxing pvp... Even with us spamming IWT we still face away from the opponent quite often, while dual-wielding you could miss out on/delay 2 swings for a decent amount of time which gimps dual-wields dps. Where as when using a 2hander your swing timer is a lot longer, and hardly miss out on any white hits.

Stick with 2handers if you're pvping.

Exception to this IMO is if you can roll with Khaz trinkets. Then 30-40k frost strikes make everything moot!

[Toned]

I have 2 Obsidium Cleavers on my Main Dk, and working on getting Khaz trink... Redonkulous DPS lol.... If only I farmed more gold at start of Cata! I could roll 8 cleavers + 4 Khaz trinks.

[Fat Tire]

I have 2 Obsidium Cleavers on my Main Dk, and working on getting Khaz trink... Redonkulous DPS lol.... If only I farmed more gold at start of Cata! I could roll 8 cleavers + 4 Khaz trinks.

Seriously, I have 3 khaz trinkets one on my ret,war,dk. I mostly lose to feral/mage/healer comps atm. Everything else is...

[Multibocks]

To think I sold two of those for 15k each.



Edit: do the charges stack faster than the 359 trinket? I have that one (turns you into dragonkin) on my warrior and I noticed it takes a while to build charges, even with 1 handers.

[Fat Tire]

To think I sold two of those for 15k each.



Edit: do the charges stack faster than the 359 trinket? I have that one (turns you into dragonkin) on my warrior and I noticed it takes a while to build charges, even with 1 handers.

The Khaz trinket stacks very fast, its worth the gold. That dragon trinket took forever to stack,. worthless

[zenga]

There is no internal cooldown afaik with khaz trinket. Seriously this trinket is way too OP, it wouldn't surprise me if there is a nerf coming soon. On the other hand it probably balances out the legendary caster weapon to a certain extend.

[Zzc2]

Do you still go Khaz trinket even if you're not a human dk?

[Littleburst]

Do you still go Khaz trinket even if you're not a human dk?

I don't see a reaason why you couldn't go for PVP trink + Khaz. So, that would be a yes.

[Shodokan]

Tried Dualwielding with a Obliterate spec, non-oblit spec (howling blast frost strike spam) ........




SUCKS. Don't waste time buying the weapons imo.

Everything minus melee swings hit harder (necrotic excluded) with t1 DW vs t2 2H. It is NOT worse especially with the amount of extra crit frost strikes you get and the increased damage of howling blast (i have 15 mastery, opposed to 12.23)

Considering the priority i use is HB > FS > NS > FS it helps A LOT for damage.

I'm considering going human.