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    Default Going nuts..

    Ive been googling for 2 hours now + trying to script it myself. But cant get it to work. How the hell do I script HKN to send

    <Hotkey ScrollLockOn shift t>
    //IWT
    <Toggle>
    <SendLabel w1,w2,w3,w4>
    <Key k>


    I have my shamans spamming LBs when I press Shift + t, and Im trying to get Hotkeynet to send my interact button (which is K) at the same time.

    What am I doing wrong?

    Regards Nikita <3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikita View Post
    I have my shamans spamming LBs when I press Shift + t, and Im trying to get Hotkeynet to send my interact button (which is K) at the same time.
    Do you want HotkeyNet to send both Shift T and K when you press Shift T?

    If that's what you want, I'm guessing that it's illegal in WoW (edit: I wrote "guess" because it depends on the particular actions that get triggered in the game), and you probably shouldn't do it. But here's how you'd write that:

    Code:
    <Hotkey ScrollLockOn Shift T>
       <SendLabel w1,w2,w3,w4> 
          <Key Shift T>
          <Key K>
    Last edited by Freddie : 07-07-2011 at 08:43 PM
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    It's most definitely legal to send two keypresses immediately at the press of one key, as long as there is no delay.

    The whole "If I taped a bar across two or more keys it would be just like pressing one button" argument.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akoko View Post
    It's most definitely legal to send two keypresses immediately at the press of one key, as long as there is no delay.
    I don't agree. If your two sent keypresses perform a combination of actions in any single window that cannot be bound to a single key using WoW's in-game configuration, then they violate Blizzard's rules.

    In other words, in any single WoW window, a hotkey is only allowed to perform a combination of actions that the same pressed key could trigger in that window using WoW's built-in key binding interface.
    Last edited by Freddie : 07-07-2011 at 06:54 PM
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freddie View Post
    I don't agree. If your two sent keypresses perform a combination of actions that cannot be bound to a single key using WoW's in-game configuration, then they violate Blizzard's rules.
    Are you sure? I would expect that about half of this entire forum would be banned by now if that were true...

    This can be done in-game with /click. For example I want to always spam Mangle and Thrash on cooldown with Mangle higher priority than Thrash, I can just make a macro:

    /click BTButton1
    /click BTButton2

    I honestly don't see what's different than just spamming both '1' and '2' on my keyboard nonstop with a fat finger, or taping the two keys together.

    From what I remember is that Blizzard only cares that each action is a direct and immediate result of a human keypress. Performing two actions from one keypress fits into that category and must be allowed unless they said otherwise recently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akoko View Post
    This can be done in-game with /click. For example I want to always spam Mangle and Thrash on cooldown with Mangle higher priority than Thrash, I can just make a macro:

    /click BTButton1
    /click BTButton2
    If you can bind that macro to a single key press using WoW's built-in interface, then yes, it's legal to accomplish the same result with third-party software.

    That's what I said above.

    But if you cannot trigger a certain combination of actions in a single window with a single key press using WoW's built-in interface, then it's illegal to accomplish the same result with third-party software.
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    I'm with Akoko, pretty much every boxer with Isboxer that does pve and has a "big" mash button for dps, Uses several macro's under 1 key through ISboxer. So you'd probably have hundreds of people violate the rules if that wasn't allowed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freddie View Post
    If you can bind that macro to a single key press using WoW's built-in interface, then yes, it's legal to accomplish the same result with third-party software.

    That's what I said above.

    But if you cannot trigger a certain combination of actions in a single window with a single key press using WoW's built-in interface, then it's illegal to accomplish the same result with third-party software.
    /click is part of WoW's built-in macro interface.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akoko View Post
    /click is part of WoW's built-in macro interface.
    Yes of course it is.

    You keep telling me you can do something with the built-in interface.

    Yes, yes, yes. If a single physical keystroke can trigger something in the game with the built-in interface, then it's legal to do the same thing with third-party software.

    You seem to think I disagree with that statement, but in fact that's what I said from the beginning.

    My point here is that the converse is also true..

    Here's the converse:

    If a single physical keystroke can't trigger some particular combination of actions in a single window using WoW's built-in interface, then it's illegal to trigger that particular combination of actions with a hotkey in a single window using third-party software.
    Last edited by Freddie : 07-07-2011 at 09:00 PM
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    Movement isn't a macroable command in game. That includes IWT.

    But, HKN can do commands on Keyup and Keydown, so if you want to avoid sending 2 actions that aren't macroable together in game {interact and cast} try defining one on keydown and one on keyup

    <Hotkey ScrollLockOn Shift T>
    <SendLabel w1,w2,w3,w4>
    <Key Shift T>

    <Hotkeyup ScrollLockOn Shift T>
    <SendLabel w1,w2,w3,w4>
    <Key K>

    Or build it as a toggle so that first press is LB and the second is IWT

    <Hotkey ScrollLockOn Shift T>
    <Toggle>
    <SendLabel w1,w2,w3,w4>
    <Key Shift T>
    <Toggle>
    <SendLabel w1,w2,w3,w4>
    <Key K>
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