DeathKights in 4.2

[Fat Tire]

well. I did some 5 boxing with Rets/Enhance shaman. Funny I keep going back to shaman thinking it would work. Reality is : enhance shaman doesn't work. All teams (I mean all teams) focus fire shaman when they see that blue bar arena frame vs pink.

And melee, I need at least 1 DK. Otherwise the other team is going to abuse the ledge and its over for me when I fall off due to IWT spam. So TSG here I come.

Good luck Remanz-

war/frostdk or Ret/frostdk are my favs. I manually play the war or ret and iwt the frost dk since they are easier to play and war/ret have more abilities to micro manage, but still easy.

[Mercbeast]

well. I did some 5 boxing with Rets/Enhance shaman. Funny I keep going back to shaman thinking it would work. Reality is : enhance shaman doesn't work. All teams (I mean all teams) focus fire shaman when they see that blue bar arena frame vs pink.

And melee, I need at least 1 DK. Otherwise the other team is going to abuse the ledge and its over for me when I fall off due to IWT spam. So TSG here I come.

I'm gonna try 2 DK + 3 Enhance.

Enhance DPS so far seems much higher than DK and I feel like the synergy will be pretty high especially with frost unleash elements + howling blast spam.

[remanz]

I'm gonna try 2 DK + 3 Enhance.

Enhance DPS so far seems much higher than DK and I feel like the synergy will be pretty high especially with frost unleash elements + howling blast spam.

Enhance. Tough

I overlooked the defense with Enhance and put too much emphasis on offense and self heal. Being stunned meaning you get locked down for 0 DPS. and that's exactly what happens to my shaman 99% of the time. He is getting focused down, stunned.

I got 12-15k dps on dummy for burst. When it comes to arena, my shaman had like 1k dps. Only the wolf did some damage. AMS + IBF are hard to come by in this game.

[daanji]

I'm curious to know what others people DPS is on target dummies with Frost DKs.

I've been doing tests with full season 10 gear, dual wield spec and pull about 13-14K when I blow all my cool downs.

[remanz]

13-14k sounds about right.

DK burst is near frontal. You get that DPS peak at about 2-3 second into the fight, which is really really good. And the sustainable dps is not much lower than the peak.

My rets can burst up to 17-18k peak blowing everything, But needs about 15 seconds ramp up. and Once cooldown is out, dps drop to around 10k. 15 sec is a long time to get tossed around in CCs. So ended up no burst at all in the beginning ,and bubble + holy radiance trying to survive.

[Mercbeast]

13-14k sounds about right.

DK burst is near frontal. You get that DPS peak at about 2-3 second into the fight, which is really really good. And the sustainable dps is not much lower than the peak.

My rets can burst up to 17-18k peak blowing everything, But needs about 15 seconds ramp up. and Once cooldown is out, dps drop to around 10k. 15 sec is a long time to get tossed around in CCs. So ended up no burst at all in the beginning ,and bubble + holy radiance trying to survive.

Running S9 gear, I'm not putting up 14k DPS. According to recount I am ranging between 9 and 11k, I'd figure the ave is about 10k.

Although I did discover something about how ISboxer works while playing my shamans that I didn't notice with my DK's and by taking that into account my dps might spike a bit. I'll need to recount that!

For people that don't know, when you set like 6 abilities to fire on one step, the ability at the top of the list fires first if all conditions can be met for all abilities. So, having howling blast as your first ability in a spam system is a bad idea because even if you are in melee range, you will HB before you do anything else! I'm guessing this is more a case of my own ignorance and not something most people don't already know! ;p

[remanz]

Running S9 gear, I'm not putting up 14k DPS. According to recount I am ranging between 9 and 11k, I'd figure the ave is about 10k.

Although I did discover something about how ISboxer works while playing my shamans that I didn't notice with my DK's and by taking that into account my dps might spike a bit. I'll need to recount that!

For people that don't know, when you set like 6 abilities to fire on one step, the ability at the top of the list fires first if all conditions can be met for all abilities. So, having howling blast as your first ability in a spam system is a bad idea because even if you are in melee range, you will HB before you do anything else! I'm guessing this is more a case of my own ignorance and not something most people don't already know! ;p

Hm. what do you spam in melee range though. OB ? Dual wield OB doesn't seem to hit that hard. I haven't been optimizing my DK lately. Which system is better. the old HB + NS + FS spam ? Or HB at range, OB + FS in melee.

[Mercbeast]

Hm. what do you spam in melee range though. OB ? Dual wield OB doesn't seem to hit that hard. I haven't been optimizing my DK lately. Which system is better. the old HB + NS + FS spam ? Or HB at range, OB + FS in melee.

I don't run OB on my basic macro.


The biggest question I have is, is NS even worth using. What about a system that goes...

Downpress
FS
Oblit
HB

Since oblit should hit harder than HB, if in melee range it will try to oblit before it HB's. This might lower sustained DPS but it might spike burst a bit. Or for that matter if you simply want straight DPS and not the backloaded DPS of NS, swap NS for PS.

[Toned]

HB + Frost Strike spam is all you need ><

[Mercbeast]

HB + Frost Strike spam is all you need ><

Isn't that a waste of your unholy runes though?