Thanks for the input, as for bottleneck im fairly sure its my 5870 xfire ( as crossfire is pritty much bad for boxing as you are doing window-mode) and only having 8 gigs of ram, i cant say im hellbent on 10boxing, im going to use a friends computer with similar setup(only less ram) and see how it goes and what i can do(yay for free trials), thanks for the input, apriciate it!