Looking for another 4x same class comp to play arena/random bg's

[ebony]

to get exorcism to cast on the proc if /cast exorcism! does not work (works on mages pryo and a few others not tryed pallys) then 2nd way is to have its own key for exorcism and do the

"/stopcasting /cast exorcism /stopcasting" way and use Jamba (u robey need to add spell ID) or video FX to see if the proc goes of. and then all clones will olny cast it if they can. but still might mess up dps.

maybe a 2step system might work.

[Negativ1337]

Ah yeah, nice one Thanks

[Ualaa]

Besides DK's, I've always liked Elemental Shammies and both Feral & Balance Druids.
Not claiming any of the above will be wildly successful.
However, both Elemental and Boomkin are getting boosts in 4.2.

I know Ferals are fun to play.
And can run PvE very well, thanks to Resto + Bear + 3x DPS (Range or Melee).
Nothing levels faster in PvE... thanks to self heals and mana via killing things as a cat, and Flight Form for any kind of ground spawn.
They are decidedly lacking in Cleave effects, so will lose to Hellfire Warlocks or Howling Blast DK's... but are rather fun with the stealth and all.

4x Enhance, with a healer (or 5x Enhance -- or maybe 4x Enhance without a healer) is worth consideration.
Pinotnoir (5x) and Eatcarbs (4x + Heals) are both running the composition.
It definitely looks fun to play, but is also lacking in cleave effects.
The self healing in DPS form is superior to Ferals, but the team is not a traditional PvE unit.

Nikita has run a full group of Hunters.
They could be fun too, essentially machine gun style killing anything that they have line of sight to.

[Littleburst]

They are decidedly lacking in Cleave effects, so will lose to Hellfire Warlocks or Howling Blast DK's... .

/gasp?

Swipe? Is there any aoe abilities that crits up to 20k at 85 per target and is quite spammable?

[Ualaa]

Feral has two swipes and then they've used 90/100 energy.

With equal gear, a 5x Demo Warlock team absolutely raped my 5x Feral Druid team in battlegrounds.
They have Felguards doing the spinning axe move, plus Hellfire from each of the Warlocks... which resulted in a dead team on my part 6 or 7 attempts in a row.
My cleave from each of the Druids in an attempt to cleave them back did not once kill a single warlock.
Even opening with Charge > Ravage, which dropped one outright making it a 5v4 did not get even a second warlock down before all five druids fell... and this is equal gearing.

So technically they can cleave, via Swipe, but it doesn't do nearly enough to kill anyone.
Conversely, teams with strong cleave effects can absolutely and consistently destroy bunched up ferals with relative ease.

Maybe its different when you go against five individual players in arena... and one of them is a solo feral who is in your face while the rest of their team each also does their own thing.
I can see it being painful having 20% damage dealt by one toon onto all five of yours.
But if it were five bunched Ferals vs five bunched toons with stronger AoE moves, you get dead kitties every time.



Compare that to Howling Blast on the DK's.
HB hits the main target much harder (so you're definitely threatening to kill the main target), and the splash damage might be comparable but it seems to be higher.
You can HB at 30 yards and it hits everyone within 10 yards of the main target... this applies Frost Fever and a 50% snare.

As a Frost DK you can do four Howling Blasts in 10 seconds.
That's a lot more than the Swipe of a feral.
You can even Runic Empowerment if you want more burst.

[Noids]

I've levelled my shams as my second team. Enjoying the flexibility they give again and switch between ele and enhance on the run for different boss fights. Haven't done a hell of a lot of PvP with them but Ele in 4.2 should be interesting so will give that a go.

[Akoko]

Feral has two swipes and then they've used 90/100 energy.

I suspect that Swipe would be hilariously strong if you did this:

Swipe twice.
Tiger's Fury (restores your energy almost to full with King of the Jungle and adds +damage).
Berserk (energy costs significantly reduced).
Swipe infinitely every GCD while Berserk is up.

Only works once every 3 minutes though.

[Umbaalo]

I suspect that Swipe would be hilariously strong if you did this:

Swipe twice.
Tiger's Fury (restores your energy almost to full with King of the Jungle and adds +damage).
Berserk (energy costs significantly reduced).
Swipe infinitely every GCD while Berserk is up.

Only works once every 3 minutes though.

Lol, I used to do this in WotLK during trash packs in raids. Only down side was 9/10 times I would die from pulling aggro. It was worth it though to see the other AoE classes in raid chat go ""wtf was that?".

[fleaplus]

Here is the problem with feral: they are the most squishy class in the game. Even most cloth classes get more buffs or mitigation spells that let them survive longer. Every time I go up against the 10 dk boxer I have to pop survival instincts and will usually be dead unless they have already died. Oh, and swipe is about a 15k crit at most against someone in full vicious.

[Umbaalo]

Feral pvp was never suited for toe-to-toe pvp combat with most melee classes. I found the best playstyle was stacking as many bleeds as possible and kiting if I could, sometimes running far enough to restealth and get another series of bleeds back on. That was solo play though, so that strategy isn't really an option I guess.