[Theorycrafting] optimizing Team Beeq

[Littleburst]

the only time it matters is when you are killing a boss, so you will always have time warp. That means 15% haste is cap since less than 1 second ABs are haste capped. Mastery is the best stat after that. BTW most bosses last around 20-30 seconds, with the higher health pool bosses taking almost 40, which is perfect for time warp.

edit: and the fastest kill I have for a heroic boss is Corborus, with an amazing 10 second kill =D

Oh yeah, mornin'. Forgot Time warp >.>

[Multibocks]

10 seconds ?? My best is 12 with flasks and feasts

Got some 372 loot on them already? :P

I think I was really really lucky with crits on all my guys. Unfortunately I forgot to reset my recount before engaging so I have no idea what dps they were doing. I can only do 12 sec kills now. Just really really lucky I guess.

[beeq]

Got my other mage team to 85 today.

10 mages in BoT =

[beeq]

Here are some AB casting times with different stacks and other stuff.

AB = Arcane Blast stack amount
TW = Time Warp
WH = Witching Hourglass heroic (+1710 haste proc)

Gear = +15.08% haste (1502 haste rating)

0AB = 1.74
1AB = 1.65
2AB = 1.56
3AB = 1.48
4AB = 1.39
4AB+WH = 1.24

0AB+TW = 1.34
1AB+TW = 1.27
2AB+TW = 1.2
3AB+TW = 1.14
4AB+TW = 1.07
4AB+TW+WH = 0.955

As we can see here, even though the trinket is awesome, at certain point the proc just goes useless.
Tooltip shows AB casting time 0.955 at fastest, but if it is 1.000 sec actually, then that trinket proc gives only 0.07 sec haste, which is nothing.

[Multibocks]

ya I have found that for heroic instances trinkets with a use or proc +spellpower gets the best result on boss fights. I have alchemy mages for the epic trinket (+341int and haste) and my mage that is not an alchemist has +spellpower proc trinket instead. He always wins the dps race. I thought the extra mana pool and spell power from 341int would win, but nope.

[Akoko]

Here are some AB casting times with different stacks and other stuff.

AB = Arcane Blast stack amount
TW = Time Warp
WH = Witching Hourglass heroic (+1710 haste proc)

Gear = +15.08% haste (1502 haste rating)

0AB = 1.74
1AB = 1.65
2AB = 1.56
3AB = 1.48
4AB = 1.39
4AB+WH = 1.24

0AB+TW = 1.34
1AB+TW = 1.27
2AB+TW = 1.2
3AB+TW = 1.14
4AB+TW = 1.07
4AB+TW+WH = 0.955

As we can see here, even though the trinket is awesome, at certain point the proc just goes useless.
Tooltip shows AB casting time 0.955 at fastest, but if it is 1.000 sec actually, then that trinket proc gives only 0.07 sec haste, which is nothing.

Is this including the 3% haste from Netherwind Presence?

[beeq]

Is this including the 3% haste from Netherwind Presence?

Yes, all the goods from arcane talents included.

[Meshuggenah]

Mastery is superior to haste for Arcane. The point of Arcane is that you should only ever below 95% mana during your burn phase, after which you Evo back to full and start using missiles again.

[Multibocks]

95 % mana? So like 3 casts of AB and then use your evocate? Seems unlikely.

[Meshuggenah]

95 % mana? So like 3 casts of AB and then use your evocate? Seems unlikely.

AM is free. You use AM whenever it procs. You'll generally get an AM proc every 1-3 casts of AB (sometimes several in a row, with no AB's at all). With mage armor regenerating your mana, you can easily stay above 95%. The only time you use Evocate is after your cooldowns are finished, because you should have been spamming AB during cooldowns and be at around 40% mana, so Evo will fill your bar so you can begin your conservation phase again until your cooldowns are back up.