[Theorycrafting] optimizing Team Beeq

[beeq]

Heya

I've been using Rawr for a long time, but since it is still buggy as hell, I'm asking your opinions to push up my team's dps (5x arcane mages) even higher.
When it comes to relative stat values, and when my max target levels are 87, I think the following prios on stats are the best.

Hit rating +6% -> Intellect -> Haste -> Mastery -> the rest

Because of my plan is just to blow all the cooldowns and then AB spam down my target, these stat values seems correct (More ABs in less time while cooldowns are still up).
I think there won't be situation where mastery would be better than haste (famous haste caps on many classes..), but I'd like to hear this from you.

[deadca7]

Download Simcraft, and run each of your character through it. It will tell you everything you need to optimize for each character.. Rotation, stat weight etc.

[beeq]

Download Simcraft, and run each of your character through it. It will tell you everything you need to optimize for each character.. Rotation, stat weight etc.

I chaged the region from options tab, but the importing fails

[Mokoi]

mastery seems almost useless to me, as it is a spec in which all of your mana is in a state of almost constant run-out-ed-ness.. I find anyway..

[Multibocks]

Ok haste has usefulness until you drop AB below 1.5 seconds and then it's not as useful because you are global cooldown limited. Unless they fixed that, been a long time since I read EJ forums on mages.

With the Patch 4.1 reduction in the AB cast time and given the levels of Haste present on current raid gear, it is now once again feasible to encounter the game mechanic of the Haste Cap; where under stacked spell haste conditions (such as Heroism/Bloodlust/Berserking) your AB cast time hits the 1 second GCD hard limit. Current analysis indicates that excess Haste be reforged to Hit or Mastery as required. Tools such as Rawr can calculate this for you if your appropriate raid buffs and spell haste effects are set correctly.

So with lust you are haste capped. For bosses we are always using lust. I would reforge haste to mastery to a point that your haste + blood lust = 1.0 AB cast time.

[Multibocks]

just tested in game and 15% haste with lust is approx 1 sec cast time for AB (with full AB buff). I would convert all haste to mastery and crit after that.

[Akoko]

When I single box, I raid on my resto druid or arcane mage.

Haste is okay, but is mostly useless after your AB cast time is already at 1 second which is very easy to get with 4-piece tier 11. So I usually stack hit to 17% > mastery > crit > haste.

But raiding is of course a very different environment than multiboxing with 5 mages. With no tank, of course you will be wanting maximum burst and mastery won't take as much effect, and you need a much smaller hit cap.

[Littleburst]

It matters a lot of if you have Heroism or not. Since you could stack a lot more haste without it.

I think Haste is most effective, then Mastery, then crit. (hitcap is must obviously.)

[Multibocks]

It matters a lot of if you have Heroism or not. Since you could stack a lot more haste without it.

I think Haste is most effective, then Mastery, then crit. (hitcap is must obviously.)

the only time it matters is when you are killing a boss, so you will always have time warp. That means 15% haste is cap since less than 1 second ABs are haste capped. Mastery is the best stat after that. BTW most bosses last around 20-30 seconds, with the higher health pool bosses taking almost 40, which is perfect for time warp.

edit: and the fastest kill I have for a heroic boss is Corborus, with an amazing 10 second kill =D

[beeq]

edit: and the fastest kill I have for a heroic boss is Corborus, with an amazing 10 second kill =D

10 seconds ?? My best is 12 with flasks and feasts

Got some 372 loot on them already? :P