Pwnboxer or ISBoxer?

[Lax]

Features aside, what you'll find with Pwnboxer -- this will sound similar to someone else's comment, and I'm not trying to be mean here -- is that Tim isn't an application developer, he is an advertiser . He builds web sites and sells things. This is why he was talking about hiring someone in order to get Pwnboxer 3 done, because he "bit off more than he could chew" (his words from his forums).

What you get with ISBoxer is me. I code a lot, and I multibox, and I code for my fellow multiboxers. I've spent years developing and supporting ISBoxer and its components, and similar tools before that. I know a metric fuckton of ridiculous details about hardware, performance, and other multiboxing issues based on both personal experience, and experience helping thousands of my customers over the years.

So... do you want to pay a marketing guy in order to promote further marketing of his product(s)? Or do you want to pay a developer guy in order to promote further development of his product(s)?

[Duane]

I would never buy a product from a douche like the Pwnboxer guy but that's just me.

[drarkan]

I would never buy a product from a douche like the Pwnboxer guy but that's just me.

Really? What was your experience with him? Or was it the software itself? Making a statement like that makes me curious as to why one would come to that conclusion.

[MiRai]

Really? What was your experience with him? Or was it the software itself? Making a statement like that makes me curious as to why one would come to that conclusion.

The author of Pwnboxer was part of these forums back in the day prior to getting himself banned. He was
banned for a reason and that ban still stands to this day. He has a bad rep with most of the old school and
veteran members here. His reputation isn't the focus of this particular thread so please do not continue this
discussion here at this time. I'm sure if you dig deep in the archives of this forum you can find interesting
things.

[Acidburning]

I know a metric fuckton of ridiculous details

This is why I support ISBoxer.

[Lax]

Where to begin is with the WoW Quick Start Guide.

If you want immediate help, you should come to the chat room and ask any questions you need. I'm around quite a bit, and if not, there's other ISBoxer experts that hang out in the channel (and here, and the ISBoxer forums). Otherwise, I read everything on the ISBoxer.com forums and will get back to you as soon as I can. I read this site slightly less often but you will still get helped if you ask here too Whichever you like is fine,

Dockable clickmapping = Click Bars

Switching between window layouts on the fly may not be needed, what did you want to accomplish more specifically?

[Ualaa]

The biggest thing from going Keyclone to IS Boxer for me, was the difference between Keymaps and Repeater.
I'd imagine the same thing will apply to Pwnboxer to IS Boxer, too.

Repeater is straight broadcasting.
When you push "A" on the keyboard, all the others also receive "A".
So this is like the keys which are broadcast in PB, but it is everything including the mouse.
One of the examples in my IS Boxer Guide (see signature) is separating Key and Mouse repeater into two mapped keys.

Key Maps are groups of Mapped Keys.
At a basic level, most have a hotkey to activate.
And they do something.
Most of your previous PB hotkeys, where you push "1" and it broadcasts "1", you will want to convert into Mapped Keys.
Note: The wizard generates a bunch of mapped keys for you, notably 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 0, -, = are all FTL DPS Keys.
Which means if you put Fire Ball on "1" on a two Mages, Frost Bolt also on "1" on a third mage, Shadowbolt on "1" on the Warlock... and press "1" from any window, without any warcraft macros they will all assist the active window and cast whatever is on "1".



You can separately toggle on/off both Keymaps and Repeater.
If both Repeater and Keymaps are on, Keymaps take precedence -- meaning if you have the key T set to send the Lifetap keybind to your Warlock windows, pressing T will do that rather than send T to all windows.

When you're entering your password, you want Keymaps Off and Repeater On.
In the game when playing, 90% of the time you want Keymaps On and Repeater Off.
When chatting with a friend or in trade, you want Keymaps Off and Repeater Off.
When playing and you want everyone to click a portal or to select talents (same class/spec) at once, have both Keymaps and Repeater on.



The IRC is a strong resource, as there are people there 24/7.
Basically enter it, ask your question -- not ask if anyone is there.
Then wait...
If there's no immediate response, don't leave the IRC, it is just a browser tab.
Check back in a while.

The IS Boxer forums are a great place for support too.
Lax checks those several times a day; anytime I have a question it is answered quickly.

If the question is more generic or game related, and less of a technical question...
These forums rock, as there are a lot of users here every day (more so on weekdays).
And players have adapted IS Boxer's tools to their game.

[CheeseCake]

I started with keyclone myself then moved over to pwnboxer, tried isboxer but at the time it seemed way to confusing for me i just didnt have a clue i was just noob at multiboxing, so i went back to the simple use of pwnboxer i found it great, did what i wanted it to just fine, it even gave me more FPS than isboxer.

Then i wanted to have wow on 2 computers and since you cant do that with pwnboxer i looked into isboxer again.
Yes it was confusing to me yet again but lax has been making some amazing updates to it that i simply dont see myself ever going back to the other two, its simply surpases them in god knows how many ways.

Plus the support you get from lax and others has just been amazing.

Keyclone is one payment
Pwnboxer yearly i believe
ISboxer every 3 months

This may seem off putting to some paying like that but what you get and the support you get will make your multiboxing experience a whole lot better.
Im still keeping an eye on what will happen with pwnboxer 3. Hopefully something really good.
Keyclone i dont even know what goes on with that or if it still gets updates.

[Ualaa]

Keyclone is one payment
Pwnboxer yearly i believe
ISboxer every 3 months

KC = $19.99 = Lifetime license for a single PC, which you can transfer to another computer even; you can network multiple PC's if each has a license.

PB = $35.00 = One year of usage/updates. Tim has mentioned, until the 3.0 version comes out he is not enforcing the one year thing; so currently $35 = lifetime... but a renewal at a reduced rate (not sure what it will be) will be required once 3.0 is finished and someone's year from date of purchase has passed.

ISB = $36.00 = One year of usage/updates. Thirteen months, not twelve if you mention a referral.

[Ughmahedhurtz]

Then i wanted to have wow on 2 computers and since you cant do that with pwnboxer i looked into isboxer again.

It doesn't? Hell, even the free software has that feature.