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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethanc View Post
    Concerning the GPU would a single GTX 590 run 5 wow instances (main on ultra or high and slaves on medium) in a populated area without a lot of problems? I was planning on just running 2 monitors but I wouldn't be opposed to a 3 or 4 monitor setup.

    I will likely get OCZ vertex 3 for the SSD.

    (The Mboard that Noids suggested was what I was thinking of after I saw something about the Z68, only thing I wasn't sure about was if I would be able to eventually upgrade it to 2 video cards)
    It sounds like you've changed your mind from the 990X to a SNB chip but you haven't updated your original post so I'm not
    sure what exactly to comment on.

    I do know that you don't want dual GPU cards since multiboxing doesn't work well with SLI or CF. It'd be a complete waste
    to separate the GPUs and have one sit dormant which would just make it an underclocked GTX 580.

    And for the sake of argument and variety... I would recommend the Intel 510's over the OCZ V3's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenril View Post
    It sounds like you've changed your mind from the 990X to a SNB chip but you haven't updated your original post so I'm not
    sure what exactly to comment on.

    I do know that you don't want dual GPU cards since multiboxing doesn't work well with SLI or CF. It'd be a complete waste
    to separate the GPUs and have one sit dormant which would just make it an underclocked GTX 580.

    And for the sake of argument and variety... I would recommend the Intel 510's over the OCZ V3's.
    Updated the orginal post, thanks for reminding me.

    Concerning the Intel 510's, Are there any performance differences between it and the Vertex 3? They are the same price on Newegg for the same amount of space and I didn't know if I was missing something while reading.

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    The HAF is a nice case, I moved from a (silent) Antec P182 to a HAF 932 and did not notice much of a difference in terms of quieteness. The only change was that I never hearded my HDs in the Antec and now with the HAF I can tell when they are accessed.

    Imho the gtx 590 is overkill, 580 is sufficient for 5x wow and less power hungry (CPU is the limitation here). And SLI is asking for trouble most of the time. Based on that I think a 1200W power supply is somewhat oversized.

    If you intend to overclock I'd go with a good aftermarket cooler for the CPU. Comming from i7 overclocking I can recommend the Prolimatechs (Megahalems / Shadow / Super Mega). I'm unsure about their new Genesis because it blocks the RAM banks but that can be an advantage in cooling too. Easy mounting, good performance and still very quiet with a good fan.

    EDIT: took a look at the corsair cooler I'd say that thing is not worth the bucks. Good quality silent CPU coolers come at 50% of its price.
    Last edited by RSM72 : 05-19-2011 at 05:59 PM

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    Quote Originally Posted by RSM72 View Post
    If you intend to overclock I'd go with a good aftermarket cooler for the CPU. Comming from i7 overclocking I can recommend the Prolimatechs (Megahalems / Shadow / Super Mega). I'm unsure about their new Genesis because it blocks the RAM banks but that can be an advantage in cooling too. Easy mounting, good performance and still very quiet with a good fan.
    I looked at the Prolimatech Supermega and the only concern I would have is that it would get in the way of the RAM I chose, guaranteed I could always pick a RAM with a smaller heatsink. I would like to be able to get 16gb into this system.

    On a side note I assume that I would have to buy a 120mm-140mm fan to sit on top of that?

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    As I understand it, in order to control temps and power the GTX 590 is "down-clocked" a fair amount, and thus the performance benefit isn't as big as it should be. I've run 5x WOW on a Radeon 5850 (low video settings on slaves, high settings on main) without issue. A GTX 580 paired with that i7 2600K should handle 5x WOW and allow you to run the main character at Ultra with solid frame rates except when you enter a packed area (like a city or sanctuary when there are a few dozen players in the area).

    One thing to keep in mind about SSDs is that your WOW folder(s) can get pretty massive. I think mine have gotten as big as 35-37GB with all of the patch files and other crap that can build up. 128GB SSD seems like the minimum size if it's also your boot/program/swap drive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethanc View Post
    I looked at the Prolimatech Supermega and the only concern I would have is that it would get in the way of the RAM I chose, guaranteed I could always pick a RAM with a smaller heatsink. I would like to be able to get 16gb into this system.

    On a side note I assume that I would have to buy a 120mm-140mm fan to sit on top of that?
    Yes you need fan(s) on top of that. Supermega is compatible with 120 and 140 ones and I think it comes with two pairs of clamps to mount either one or two fans. Thus I'm running with only one because whatever I do the second one will turn my silent airflow into some kind of turbine.

    And damn are those things expensive at neweggs, I can get the Megahalens Rev B for 40€ over here while the Supermega is close to 60€.

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    As for those large coolers like that, I use the Thermalright Venomous-X and on the Gigabyte UD7 board there
    wasn't enough room to attach 2 fans to it with how tall my RAM is. On the Maximus IV there is just enough
    room to attach the second fan but, to be honest I'm not sure I notice much of a cooling difference. I've always
    been told a push/pull setup can actually hurt cooling performance and that you should really just strap a single
    fan on there with a high CFM.

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    With the ssds I would say a few things. Keep in mind I actually use two intel x25s because they were the best drives for what we wanted at the time. Ocz originally had reliability issues due to poor controllers and intel came out with their own controller which was much better. Since then ocz (and most of the industry) use sand force controllers which are widely recognized as the best.

    Intel's new 510 ssd does not use an intel controller any more. It has also been designed to excel in large sequential read performance rather than smaller random reads which is what we want. For a system drive you want one which performs well with random writes also (this is where the original ocz drives fell in a hole). The vertex 2 and 3 both perform at best in class level for random read and writes. If you are set on getting an intel drive (which I'm sure will not disappoint) then I would recommend looking at a 320 instead as it is designed around better random read/write performance which suits your use as a system drive slightly better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethanc View Post
    Updated the orginal post, thanks for reminding me.

    Concerning the Intel 510's, Are there any performance differences between it and the Vertex 3? They are the same price on Newegg for the same amount of space and I didn't know if I was missing something while reading.
    There are performance differences across the board regardless of which SSD you choose... that includes both brand and size.
    The OCZ V3's are technically the fastest drives out there when it comes to benchmark numbers, but hardly any of that is
    every day real world performance. What I like to look at is reliability.

    Quote Originally Posted by Young Uneducated Child
    Mr. Fenril, how do you figure that Intel SSDs are more reliable than OCZ SSDs?
    I'm glad you asked that. Technically, I don't know. But, just by browsing hardware forums on a regular basis I rarely see people
    bitching about Intel SSDs (or even Crucial for that matter), but someone is always bitching about their OCZ drive. Something
    else that really bothers me about OCZ is their forum. If you look at Intel's SSD forum and OCZ's SSD forum (after you get past
    OCZ's 15 fucking stickies) and compare them side-by-side on how many people are having issues with their drives every day. I
    think you'll notice that OCZ has a plethora of problems going on over at their forum while Intel's forum is nice and quiet.

    It can always be argued though that since OCZ boasts the biggest numbers, they have the most customers, and, in turn, have

    the most reported issues. Who knows?

    Anyway, get rid of that stupid GTX 590. The 590 is just two underclocked 580's jammed on the same card. They're
    underclocked because if they weren't the card would probably catch on fire. I own the 3GB GTX 580 and this thing can pump
    out some heat.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenril View Post
    There are performance differences across the board regardless of which SSD you choose... that includes both brand and size.
    The OCZ V3's are technically the fastest drives out there when it comes to benchmark numbers, but hardly any of that is
    every day real world performance. What I like to look at is reliability.


    I'm glad you asked that. Technically, I don't know. But, just by browsing hardware forums on a regular basis I rarely see people
    bitching about Intel SSDs (or even Crucial for that matter), but someone is always bitching about their OCZ drive. Something
    else that really bothers me about OCZ is their forum. If you look at Intel's SSD forum and OCZ's SSD forum (after you get past
    OCZ's 15 fucking stickies) and compare them side-by-side on how many people are having issues with their drives every day. I
    think you'll notice that OCZ has a plethora of problems going on over at their forum while Intel's forum is nice and quiet.

    It can always be argued though that since OCZ boasts the biggest numbers, they have the most customers, and, in turn, have

    the most reported issues. Who knows?

    Anyway, get rid of that stupid GTX 590. The 590 is just two underclocked 580's jammed on the same card. They're
    underclocked because if they weren't the card would probably catch on fire. I own the 3GB GTX 580 and this thing can pump
    out some heat.

    I'll look more into the the Intel 510's a bit more. Do you use just 1 3GB GTX 580?
    I am trying to order everything from Newegg and the only 3GB GTX 580 I found was the one by ZOTAC
    (Edited to include link)
    Last edited by Ethanc : 05-18-2011 at 11:59 AM

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