Wow has lost its touch. Is cata responsible?

[Shodokan]

Agreed.



There is a huge difference between the normal modes and the hard modes. It depends of course on the guild you raid with and on your personal skill, but we had no real problems with any bosses on normal mode, but it can take use quite some time to knock out a new heroic boss. The difference is immense on at least half of the fights, so I don't really understand why progressing through hard modes would be pointless? Even the very top guilds needed several days to get a kill on a new hc boss.

According to wow progress about 400 guilds killed nefarian before 2011. Iirc you were on illidan us, so you must 've been in one of the the top 3/4 guilds on your realm, which are basically all world top 150 guilds. Looks pretty weird to say that it's pointless to continue after clearing normal modes when raiding in such a pro environment.

I raided 9 toons a week in ICC... when you have shit on farm it gets boring. And i moved off illidan and didn't like the guild i was with anyway. If i liked the people i was raiding with i'd love to just push hardmodes but when you loathe some people you were playing with the environment isn't the greatest to push for that sort of thing. I ended up taking a break last semester anyway so in the end i wouldn't have been able to really put effort into raiding.