Thinking about trying out Arenas for some change of scenery, and need some advice.

[Atrocious]

Looking for some tips and advice regarding arena 2vs2 and 3vs3. Got a tad bored with PvE lately, and wanted to get into PvPing a bit more seriously than I have been previously. I have from time to time done PvP on my main Paladin as Retadin, but never more seriously than to run some random BGs once in a while just to break the monotony of PvE.

I got the following characters to choose from:
Account 1: Pally(85, Ret and Prot), DK(72, Blood and Unholy), Warrior(80, Prot and Arms)
Account 2: Druid(85, Balance and Resto), Priest(81, Disc and Shadow), Shaman (68, Elem)
Account 3: Mage(85, Fire), Shaman(81,Elem)
Account 4: Warlock(85, Demonology and Destruction), Shaman(81,Elem),Hunter (65, Elem)
Account 5: Shaman(85, Elem and Resto)

I had a go yesterday with a friend for 2v2 with my Retadin(not optimally talented nor glyphed for PvP, but for PvE, and in all Bloodied Pyrium PvP gear) and his Shadow Priest. We got owned. Three first fights we were dead a few seconds after the gate opened, fourth was fairly close. This was more a trial run as I wanted to see a bit how they play out before I start boxing arenas.

Now I want to try to multibox 2vs2 or 3vs3. Of the classes I currently have what combination would probably be easiest to get a decent result without sacrificing PvE viability? Granted my Shammies I have no problem making the secondary spec the PvP spec, and I guess that I wont really loose too much PvE viability of my Retadin if I have to use a PvP talent build. For my mage I can easily pick up frost as secondary spec as I understand that is THE PvP spec for mages.

Do you drive with the healer/caster and let the melee run around with IWT?

[Toned]

3 Frost Dk's gogo

[Littleburst]

3 Frost Dk's gogo

That.

Preferably you don't play a healer in Arena. in 5's someone else can play it and for 2vs2 or 3vs3 you want 3 dps champs, because you lack the ability to control your CC/movement good enough to play with 2 dps in 3vs3.

[Ualaa]

If you're serious about PvP, I would start with as much of the crafted PvP sets as possible.

And then run battlegrounds a lot.
This is the practice ground, where you learn your set up, tweak your macros, etc.
Plus you earn honor here, which gets you much better pvp gear.
You'll probably want at least the 2 minute trinket from honor before you do arena.

I've not done much 3's; in 2's so far I've played only a single toon.
But could see playing both (or all three, in 3's) as DPS working.

Losing constantly does suck.
But your personal MMR raises or falls with wins or losses.
If you queue at primetime on Tue (after patch) or Mon (before patch), or in the afternoon/evening on weekends, the pool of opposition will be huge, and you'll end up against opponents much closer to your MMR.
Keep at it, and you'll get your 8 wins.

It might be worthwhile to run a single toon at a time, with someone who is at least half geared.
To get your weapons, which will be 2-3 weeks of arena; weapons are a substantial boost.
It is hard to break in, mid season.

[Toned]

I picked up 3v3 last week for something to do with my DK's I'm already 1840+ It works... and it works well.

I've normally kept my arena like this:
2v2 - Since the removal of titles/awards. I use this as a place to burn time and carry friends to 1850(pre-cata) for weapons, and post cata I just help random friends and guildies cap their pts with 2.
3v3- This is where I played the majority of my single toon pvp since BC. Untill now with my 3 DKs. I did toy around with 3 Ele shams in WOTLK when I got sick of ICC (hit 1700+ with few headaches).
5v5- This is where I've played my multi-box pvp 4 DPS + Some one healing. Currently this season I've been doing 4 DKs + a Priest (all me).
I've broke 2K multiple seasons since BC with shamans + 1, but my personal goal for this season is 5boxing 4 DK + either my priest or pally to 2k.

Based off your post my first reaction was... If you don't like losing and plan to multi-box arenas... Then you need to level some new toons. The mixed class groups in pvp don't work so well. I'm not saying it's impossible, but it appears to me that you are new to this as you've stated. I'd recommend getting 3 of 1 class for 3v3 if you are serious about it. 3 Dks, 3 Wars, 3 Shams, 3 Druids... something. 3Mages would be fun it's on my list of things to do.

[Fat Tire]

I think 2s are a great place to learn how to arena and get in alot of practice while gearing up at the same time. You also get the luxury of playing any comp you choose. For 3s, you need to run the current fotm OP comp (currently frost DKs) however, it changes every patch. There is currently a 2900 2 Frost DKs/pally healer (non-boxed) since 4.2.


In my opinion the pvp landscape is changing in wow, pick classes that are good in BGs and then learn to arena with them. Boxing 4-5 characters wont get you or will rarely get you an RBG win. I could see 3, but I have only done 2 myself in rbgs. Something to keep in mind. The encouragement of blizzard or forcing rbgs upon players to gain max points is only the start.

[Atrocious]

I don't care that much about losses just don't want to be destroyed as I enter the arena . As I said I'm not gonna go completely insane with PvP, just to get a break from PvE.

I've decided to give Pally(Ret) and Shammy(Ench), Warrior(Arms)/Shammy(Ench), Warlock/Mage a test. Just to see how it goes, I'll update when I've tried it out a bit. Now I just have to craft all this PvP gear.

I don't want to level up more toons right now, I dont have that much time to play, and by the time I've reached high enough levels, DKs will be nerfed into oblivion.

[Toned]

I don't care that much about losses just don't want to be destroyed as I enter the arena . As I said I'm not gonna go completely insane with PvP, just to get a break from PvE.

I've decided to give Pally(Ret) and Shammy(Ench), Warrior(Arms)/Shammy(Ench), Warlock/Mage a test. Just to see how it goes, I'll update when I've tried it out a bit. Now I just have to craft all this PvP gear.

I don't want to level up more toons right now, I dont have that much time to play, and by the time I've reached high enough levels, DKs will be nerfed into oblivion.

DK's will always be OP they were designed to be OP ><

Early season 9 when warriors were out of control and shit all over DK's was about the only time Dk's weren't "good", but vs non warrior teams DKs were tearing it up still before the ridiculous frost buffs.

[Atrocious]

I have bit the big one and created three more DKs, but haven't started leveling them yet, but I'll keep em around and try to only level them through PvP/Arenas when I've done all the other PvE I've wanted to try out.

Had a go yesterday with my Retadin and Ech Shammy, both in full crafted PvP gear, the ech shammy was fully specced according to a guide to Shammy PvP, the Retadin is PvE specced when it comes to talents and glyphs. As soon as I lost a few more fights and my MMR dropped below 800, things started getting easier, but havent won yet. But now it's a fight and I manage to atleast kill one of them before they take both of mine out. The rotation for the Ech shammy is not optimal, but doesn't seem like anyone has posted their macros for ech shammy anywhere(that actually work, aradent has, but they do not work). Managed to get about 6k on a training dummy, which was not bad. Need to work on the rotation for the shammy, since most of the abilities are on cooldowns in a similar manner to Retadin I think I might be able to make something better.

But I am learning, for example a lot of potions and abilities do not work in arena, so have to figure out which work and which don't, and get that working a bit better. Also need to get Gladius set up properly. Unfortunately the ech shammy spell hit is too low to get Hex to working reliably. Need to create CC and interrupt round robins, also my fire elemental totems.

Until my ranking tanks sufficently it will be an uphill battle, as I am currently fighting people with way better gear than me and more experience. A bit frustrating, but I got a good outlet for that.

[Cluch]

Atrocious, I would love to hear an update.

I was thinking of jumping into some 2vs2 myself after getting bored with pve, maybe 3vs3. Like you, I don't really have any experience in arenas.

I've been thinking I have nothing to lose short of frustration from losing. However, I wouldn't mind a little insight on what to expect. As in, expect to lose your first 1000 games.....HA!