Change in Rules here @ dual-boxing.com

[Fat Tire]

This is correct. You are way off base.

Dual-Boxing currently has 3 methods of Income. Google ads that get displayed to users that are not logged in, Keyclone referrals, and from ISBoxer. I'm pretty sure I've explained our income sources before in another post. Pwnboxer does not financially support this site. If Ellay was going to take money from Pwnboxer, he would have done it a long time ago, but he's always refused.

Did Lax pay extra for the anchor text in his link in the menu? Not at all. I changed that without consulting Ellay or Lax. Check this out, go to http://www.isboxer.com Right click on the page and click "View Source". Go look for the the Title Tags.

<title>ISBoxer: premium MMORPG multiboxing software</title>

Now lets look at our menu code...

<a href="http://www.isboxer.com/dual-boxing">ISBoxer: Premium MMORPG Multiboxing Software</a>

The change was purely from a marketing perspective. No paranoia, tinfoil hats, or bad mel gibson movies were involved.


Now you're certainly entitled to your opinion and your paranoia. But I would ask that you keep it to yourself or come ask me directly. As I've said many times before, I have absolutely no financial stake in dual-boxing.com I get paid the same amount today that I did yesterday, in fact, I got a RAISE from yesterday. 100% Raise times the $0.00 I was making brings me up to $0.00! AMAZING!

I'm here for the community. Ellay is here for the community and if the site makes a profit, then hey, it's paying HIM back for the years it didn't. I know with some precision what our income numbers are. Ellay isn't in on some island with an umbrella drink going LOLDUAL-BOXING.COM.

The only financial gain Lax could have for dual-boxing.com discussing Pwnboxer is more people would see how shitty Pwnboxer is compared to ISBoxer, and thus become ISBoxer users. So if we allow Pwnboxer discussions here it could translate to more customers for Lax, who is the major monetary contributor to dual-boxing.com. I'm not understanding the down side here. But alas, this was not the only reason we made the change. Believe it or not, everything I've said in this thread is how I feel / what I believe. You don't have to like it, just don't hate on it.

So you saying that DB.com is not getting any monetary contributions from Pwnboxer, at all? And that Isboxer who is a Major contributor to this site their only benefit is showing the members on this site that already dont use pwnboxer how bad it is?

hmmm...is isboxer allowed to be discussed on pwnboxer forums now?

I know you dont get paid SN9, but you cant expect anyone to believe this change wasnt based on money.

Your OP makes it sound like your doing the DB community a soild. Just wish you would have come out and said that this change was for money, to help lax who is in turn DB.com biggest contributor or to help DB.com directly. No matter how you want to define it this change was about money.

Will Pwnboxer get one of those nifity tabs that link to his site? PWNBOXER - Double premium MMORPG multiboxing software (twice as good as Isboxer). Is only from a marketing perspective anyway. To be fair - I use Isboxer ;p

[Svpernova09]

So you saying that DB.com is not getting any monetary contributions from Pwnboxer, at all? And that Isboxer who is a Major contributor to this site their only benefit is showing on members this site that already dont use pwnboxer how bad it is?

hmmm...is isboxer allowed to be discussed on pwnboxer forums now?

I know you dont get paid SN9, but you cant tell me that is decision wasnt based on money.

Your OP makes it sound like your doing us a soild. Just wish you would have come out and said that this change was for money, to help lax who is in turn DB.com biggest contributor.

Will Pwnboxer get one of those nifity tabs that link to his site?

Every change to this site in the last 2 years (or longer) I've either had my hand in, or Ellay has been in direct contact with me about. I can say with pretty solid certainty that Pwnboxer is not currently paying any money to dual-boxing.com *I* was the one that brought up the idea of allowing discussions here to Ellay

I do feel like allowing any software discussions here is doing you all a solid. Allowing you to see real world success and failures of any application is huge. Lets go back to August/November of 2008. Lets recall all the hate threads that were showing up about Innerspace. If I had not stepped up and explained things to the people who were mods at the time, you would not have been allowed to discuss Innerspace or ISBoxer here. Now 3 years later Innerspace is the cornerstone here.

I can't say if ISboxer will be allowed at Pwnboxer forums. I'm not an admin there, nor do I even have an account there. Judging from this thread http://multiboxing.com/forums/f2/pb-...ored-4341.html they're still filtering out dual-boxing.com links.

The decision was based on money. It was based on who multiboxers give their money to.

Pwnboxer will not be getting a menu link here. There is no advertising arrangement between us.

[Fat Tire]

The decision was based on money. It was based on who multiboxers give their money to.

Thanks SN9

[Ualaa]

hmmm...is isboxer allowed to be discussed on pwnboxer forums now?

You can mention IS Boxer freely on multiboxing.com; I do regularly.

In the past, when someone said they wanted to do whatever with their boxing software, I would explain how I do it with my software of choice; for the most part those threads stand, but a dozen or so have been removed (I've been posting on multiboxing.com, since Nov 09).
Most of those removals were when I was a very new user.

I had seen a couple of dual-boxing members post something regarding Pwnboxer on these forums.
Svper challenged them to mention a product other than Pwnboxer.
One of them, who regularly posted videos of clearing things mentioned he was an administrator on that site and his signature clearly stated he uses IS Boxer as his boxing software.

I basically googled the site, and informatively answered questions always stating clearly how to solve their problem with IS Boxer; essentially a test to see how much a non-PB product could be discussed on the other site.

An actual link to www.isboxer.com is censored, the same as www.dual-boxing.com.
The words IS Boxer or Dual-Boxing are not censored.