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    Default Hoe much DPS are your DKs doing?

    So I'm starting to think my burst needs work. I'm averaging 6k dps per DK. I think all of the control I have built into their spam key is dragging down their burst. They are frost spec and dps bar has HB, frost strike, Oblit, and necrotic strike. Now it also has Strangulate and Mind Freeze built in.

    Strangulate goes off just after fight starts and gets arena 1-4. Mind Freeze goes off round robin on focus target, staggered by 2.5 seconds. Now my primary target never gets a spell off, so that's good. However I can't kill anyone on double healer teams. It takes about 10 seconds to kill first target and by the strangulate is off and one of the healers can save the day.

    Maybe I need to remove all the auto control spells? What is a good dps for a DK on 85 dummy?

    Edit: lol stupid phone changed how to hoe.

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    I think I was getting about 7.5 - 8K DPS right when I turned 85 on a normal 85 dummy.

    Casting Howling Blastx4, Nec. Strikex2 - and that's it. Also summon your pet.

    Oh - I also had horn of winter and Might. Might adds about 10% dps.
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    11000-12500 dps per DK with horn buff only, armory can be checked in sig.
    Setup like mosg2, 2x HB, 1x Necrotic, 2x Froststrike + mindfreeze every 2.5
    My tip that i noticed is if u press slow, u get better dps and the characters doesnt run around the target in such big circles, atm im dooing about 2-3 press/second, before i prob managed to do 5-7 presses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Emo? View Post
    11000-12500 dps per DK with horn buff only, armory can be checked in sig.
    Setup like mosg2, 2x HB, 1x Necrotic, 2x Froststrike + mindfreeze every 2.5
    My tip that i noticed is if u press slow, u get better dps and the characters doesnt run around the target in such big circles, atm im dooing about 2-3 press/second, before i prob managed to do 5-7 presses.
    Spam speed does have to do with it, every time you run through them it resets your swing timer (from what i've seen) because you are not facing them. Also it makes sure your priority holds, if you spam the fuck out of a key you could still get extra necrotics instead. (i noticed this most with my warrior, slam is last in his priority list and if you spam too fast you get slam over your mortal strikes (which i have 3 of)
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    Well, post-patch I've tried out all of the different Frost combos on a single-target level 85 dummy with Horn of Winter and BoK from the Paladin:

    DW NS/HB Spam: 12.5k dps
    DW Oblit Spam: 13.5k dps
    2h Oblit Spam: 13k DPS
    2h NS/HB Spam: 12k DPS

    Mind you that my DW weapons are only ilevel 353 whereas the 2h'ers I have are ilevel 359. Overall, the max crits for me were (in descending order) DW Oblit, 2h Oblit, 2h NS/HB and then DW NS/HB. The tradeoff in DPS from Oblit to NS/HB is offset by the 30% cast speed reduction on your primary target.

    Overall I'd say I prefer the DW NS/HB simply because as soon as you have two targets your DPS increases significantly and it makes hard-swapping simple.

    CC issues:
    Take 2/2 Endless Winter so your Mind Freeze costs zero RP. It's off the GCD so it's no DPS loss to use it. Then, set up your HB button to look like this:

    /cast Howling Blast
    /cast [@arena1,exists,nodead] Strangulate

    The Strangulate will go off usually on the second or third cast and it is basically no great loss to your DPS.

    Also, I recommend setting up a separate button that only does Obliterate and Frost Strike and rotates through Hungering Cold every 3-4 seconds. This will really help against melee teams--You can focus their healer who should be doing zero casting while all of their melee get's CC'd. It's thoughtless and basically no DPS loss.

    You should consider making a macro that casts Deathgrip on arena1-4 and then Hungering Cold once or twice.

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    All of them are three buttons. Each time I press my spacebar down the DK's get F9. When the button is let up it sends Shift F9 and Ctrl F9. The buttons are listed so that the first ability you see is downpress and the others are uplift.

    DW Oblit:
    Obliterate, Frost Strike, Howling Blast
    This rotation will prioritize Obliterate and will use Howling Blast if a) your DK's aren't in melee range, and/or b) if they have no Unholy or Death runes to use Obliterate.

    DW NS/HB:
    Howling Blast, Frost Strike, Necrotic Strike
    It prioritizes Howling Blast and just rapes people.

    2h Oblit:
    Obliterate, Frost Strike, Howling Blast
    This rotation will prioritize Obliterate and will use Howling Blast if a) your DK's aren't in melee range, and/or b) if they have no Unholy or Death runes to use Obliterate.

    2h NS/HB:
    Howling Blast, Frost Strike, Necrotic Strike
    It prioritizes Howling Blast and just rapes people.
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    Wow I reset talents and changed a few things. The only offensive ability I gained was Endless Winter and my best dps was 13k. WTF, how can one ability change so much? I didnt change any priorities either.

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    When I play my main DK solo in raids I'm getting 18-20k dps (in my pvp gear).

    When I play all 4 Dks I'm getting 10-12k dps on target dummies. I do spam too fast sometimes I'm going to throttle that down and see how it goes. Thinking what twice a second?


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    Is there a way to limit spam speed in isboxer to an optimal limit?

    I do about 11k dps single target. My spam speed is quite fast.
    I'll try different spam speeds and report back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Multibocks View Post
    Wow I reset talents and changed a few things. The only offensive ability I gained was Endless Winter and my best dps was 13k. WTF, how can one ability change so much? I didnt change any priorities either.
    Endless winter makes it so that you are not losing a frost strike in order to interupt.
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    I average 2.5 clicks a second.
    Haven't really checked my DPS in a while.
    But everything fires off regularly; my DK's don't hoard a lot of Runic Power, and all my Runes are used almost as they become available.
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