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    I typically use AS to pull my mobs instead of Judgement and the Hammer and Crusader strike that close to one another in a rotation with nothing being cast between them will cause you to have to sit and wait on them to come off cooldown. Hammer and CS both share a cooldown, Hammer is meant for mobs, CS for single targets/bosses. Don't mix them in the same /castsequence unless you're tryin to fill up the character limit allowed. Best to have one macro for each. But the way I have mine set up is my main spam button is the first macro. I spam that which makes it click my /castsequence macro first, then my AS between spells or during the global cool down. This way I can pop off AS alot more than tryin to do it manually unless I chose to. I also have an AS /cast [@mouseover] macro for adds, pulling, or whatever. But with this, I'm using it also in my rotation. People on the other forums keep sayin that with this over their original style, they're losing TPS with this, but it's not that different from my original macro before the 4.1 change to WoG and Elitist Jerks never came up with anything for either from what I read as far as macros unless they couldn't get it for some reason, and nothing was/is posted since the change. I might've overlooked it, but this is what I have workin for me. Feel free to change it up if you want, add anything to it if you want, I don't care. With WoG in there and the talent for it, you're pretty much guaranteeing yourself the added damage bubble from the over healing if the healer bothers to keep you topped off. Especially with raiding. Again, the 1hp SotR may be week, but the constant damage from them back to back and AS in between should make up for it. If you put AS in the rotation, you're setting yourself up for a hangup in the rotation if you use it when it's refreshed before it reaches it in the sequence, or wasted chances if you only use it in the sequence and not as a filler.

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    Ok I've mended my macro to this:

    Single target:
    button 1: /castsequence reset=combat Crusader Strike,Crusader Strike,Crusader Strike,Shield of the Righteous
    button 2: judgement
    button 3:hammer of wrath
    button 4:/use 10 /cast divine protection /cast Avenger's Shield

    AOE:
    button 1: /castsequence reset=combat Hammer of the Righteous,Hammer of the Righteous,Hammer of the Righteous,Shield of the Righteous
    button 2: judgement
    button 3:Holy Wrath
    button 4:/use 10 /cast divine protection /cast Avenger's Shield

    I spam 1 button that spams all 4 of these, got two now one for aoe and one for bosses.

    Edit: The aoe one works well but I have large gaps in my single target one.
    Last edited by Kekkerer : 04-29-2011 at 10:09 AM

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    you should put holy wrath in both rotations. if you're going up against one target all the damage goes to the one target.

    Your button2 should be judgement, holy wrath

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    I came up with this in a hurry, but yes, you can swap out the second SotR with Holy Wrath to cast so you'll have 2hps for the third SotR in the rotation I've listed. Haven't tested it yet or timed it, but the downtime between each HW shouldn't be no more than 20 seconds, so you'll only have about 5 or so seconds of downtime between each use. If you swap HW with Hammer of Wrath, you should cast it as a filler also like AS is, but not sure if it'll get hung up and not cast it if AS is on cooldown. Been a while since I had HW in a rotation for my pally. I've been using that and Cons as situational spells due to the cooldowns on them, so I don't use them constantly. Boss fights, I hit them every second they come off cooldown tho. If anyone from here wouldn't mind putting this to the test like EJ does, could you post the results? Other forums are still givin me shit for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lans83 View Post
    I came up with this in a hurry, but yes, you can swap out the second SotR with Holy Wrath to cast so you'll have 2hps for the third SotR in the rotation I've listed.
    I am not sure what you mean by this.

    Both for my AOE and single target rotation I added the following macro:

    /castsequence reset=8 judgement, holy wrath

    My rotations now are:

    Single target:
    button 1: /castsequence reset=combat Crusader Strike,Crusader Strike,Crusader Strike,Shield of the Righteous
    button 2: /castsequence reset=8 judgement, holy wrath
    button 3: hammer of wrath
    button 4: /use 10 /cast divine protection /cast Avenger's Shield

    AOE:
    button 1: /castsequence reset=combat Hammer of the Righteous,Hammer of the Righteous,Hammer of the Righteous,Shield of the Righteous
    button 2: /castsequence reset=8 judgement, holy wrath
    button 3: /use 10 /cast divine protection /cast Avenger's Shield

    I personally like that divine protection and avenger's shield are used in the rotations. Conse i like to keep out though since it has some very good situational uses.

    Edit: Sometimes my holy power does not get used up does that mean that my shield missed or is it being skipped over somehow?
    Last edited by Kekkerer : 04-29-2011 at 11:43 PM

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    Chances are your Shield is missing, if so, check your hit/spell hit rating, make sure you're capped for whatever you're goin up against. I've never noticed mine to miss, but in the unlikely hood that it does and not use the HP, the next SotR should use it up soon after instead of waiting that whole 9+seconds again. Then again, it could also be a bug from the new patch. I use DP as a situational also. I've got a whole hotbar with my long cooldowns on I activate with my mouse cursor instead and tend to use them for boss fights or in tough battles. I've hardly ever had to use my LoH and/or bubbles in dungeons. Now that I'm running more and more Cata dungeons, I'm starting to use them a little more then I used to. I came up with the WoG/SotR mixed macro before 4.1 when I was soloing old content and wanted the added effects of WoG and it's related talents. The build I listed is also a combination of both the survivability and threat building specs listed from EJ's site. Even if the WoG heal is wasted healing on yourself when already topped off, if talented for it, you'll get the buff/bubble of extra health/damage reduction from it. This has helped me out in many situations.

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    Yeah I have 0 hit rating and expertise because I'm not up to 102.4% avoidance & block cap yet. Tanked a successful ZA mount run yesterday with my two macros, people were pulling 20-25k dps each overall for the first 4 bosses, single target dps was not an issue, had some issues with people aoeing but that is probably a reflection on my gear rather than the macros.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kekkerer View Post
    My rotations now are:

    Single target:
    button 1: /castsequence reset=combat Crusader Strike,Crusader Strike,Crusader Strike,Shield of the Righteous
    button 2: /castsequence reset=8 judgement, holy wrath
    button 3: hammer of wrath
    button 4: /use 10 /cast divine protection /cast Avenger's Shield
    It makes it two buttons, but I leave off SotR and manually fire it off. I like to micro the tank a bit, so it's not that difficult and has a nice benefit for extra effort.

    Using a similar setup to what you have, I added a button for consecration and a separate one for holy wrath. But then found that crusader strike seem to deprioritize and not fire off enough. So, my current iteration essentially has fall through macros for each ability.

    for example the Avenger Shield button looks like this, for other abilities substitute their name for Avenger's Shield:

    #showtooltip Avenger’s Shield
    /castsequence Crusader Strike, Crusader Strike, Crusader Strike
    /cast Avenger’s Shield
    /use 14
    /cast Divine Protection

    The biggest problem is judgement and Hammer of Wrath felt like they weren't firing off properly, I just put /cast Judgement and /cast Hammer of Wrath on that button. So the main mashing macro looks like this:

    /startattack
    /click Crusader's Strike
    /click Judgement
    /click Hammer of Wrath
    /click Avenger's Shield Button
    /click Consecration Button
    /click Holy Wrath Button
    /script UIErrorsFrame:Clear()

    AoE looks similar, but with HotR in lieu of CS and changed the order of buttons to prioritize different abilities.

    Had quite a bit of success with this so far. I'm not convinced abilities are being prioritized perfectly though, but it was a pretty healthy gain in dps/threat from the simple two button macro.

    Anyhow, hope this wasn't too confusing, I'm still learning exactly how stuff "falls through" and how to really prioritize what I want to.
    Last edited by Kvas : 05-02-2011 at 01:32 PM

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    I can't fill in the last 2 spell as it have reach the 255 chars limit and also after spamming a while at the dummy, I can only get auto attack unless I stop pressing the key for 3 sec then the macro will reset and start all over again.

    I am not sure what I did for the macro to stop working, can it be due to the last 2 spell not in the macro that cause the macro not to work after spamming it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heavyd View Post
    you should put holy wrath in both rotations. if you're going up against one target all the damage goes to the one target.

    Your button2 should be judgement, holy wrath
    Heavyd? Are you the same Heavyd that used to play on firetree and was once a member of the guild called Shadow?

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