How good computer for 10 toons

[coglistings]

haha, don't buy CPU's from newegg!

http://www.microcenter.com/single_pr...ct_id=0346210\

appears its onsale for $179.99. If you have a microcenter intown though, you can pick up an i5 2500k for exactly same price. no such limitation on the i7 950. mail order as you please

(there was also a bundle deal where you can get a high end asus mb with 1tb hitatchi for almost 300 but can find link)

the other things will need more research to answer without me just running my keyboard, but lets not forget that if you ever go for an intel extreme processor, you will be on the 1336 chipset, not the 1156. IDk about you, but I do enjoy hyperthreading that i-7's offer.

from this point, its really all just academic. the test that really matters is to actually get everything up and running and then report what you find to the community!

[MiRai]

haha, don't buy CPU's from newegg!

http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0346210\

appears its onsale for $179.99. If you have a microcenter intown though, you can pick up an i5 2500k for exactly same price. no such limitation on the i7 950. mail order as you please

Exactly, you have to live by one in order to take advantage of that.

(there was also a bundle deal where you can get a high end asus mb with 1tb hitatchi for almost 300 but can find link)

the other things will need more research to answer without me just running my keyboard, but lets not forget that if you ever go for an intel extreme processor, you will be on the 1336 chipset, not the 1156. IDk about you, but I do enjoy hyperthreading that i-7's offer.

Sounds like you're confusing 1156 with 1155 -- we're talking about two totally different chipsets.

from this point, its really all just academic. the test that really matters is to actually get everything up and running and then report what you find to the community!

I agree, everyone's computer is different; but, the 1155 processors, from benchmarks I've seen, handle everything overall
much better than last generation's 1366 processors for practically the same price.

[Sam DeathWalker]

Intel still hammering AMD ...

I'v had good results with gigabyte and pretty much use them and asus only.



Computer you want to play WOW?
Don't have a Cow, just go ask Sam
And as he says: Just add more Ram!

[MiRai]

intel still hammering amd ...

I'v had good results with gigabyte and pretty much use them and asus only.



Computer you want to play wow?
Don't have a cow, just go ask sam
and as he says: Just add more ram!

DJ Sam DeathWalker at your service.

[Bollwerk]

IDk about you, but I do enjoy hyperthreading that i-7's offer.

If you do things other than gaming (like video encoding, or other tasks that are heavily multi-threaded), then hyperthreading can be nice. But for those (like me) who only use their PCs for gaming (or porn), hyperthreading is a waste of $.

Until later this year, the i5-2500K is, by far, the best gaming CPU for the money. I'm running mine at 4.2GHz and I only had to press one button to OC it. =)
(thanks to my MSI P67A-GD65 board)

[coglistings]

Until later this year, the i5-2500K is, by far, the best gaming CPU for the money. I'm running mine at 4.2GHz and I only had to press one button to OC it. =)
(thanks to my MSI P67A-GD65 board)

Id would be interested in how long your system stays stable, cause at the bottom line you don't really save money if you while waiting from RMA's :P I am interested in how people still think that running multple concurrent clients is not CPU / system intensive operation. If you were talking about a singular FPS shooter or a regular, non-multiboxer wow player, yes you would be correct that an i5 is the way to go. I tend to believe that most people in the db community are aware that regular tests do not simply scale, but hey, been wrong before and happy to be wrong again, as long as the path is right.

What I and perhaps OP talk would like to hear is how someone with an i5 setup works with first 10 trial accounts, and then maybe with 10 fully lvl'ed accounts if possible.

[coglistings]

Exactly, you have to live by one in order to take advantage of that.
Sounds like you're confusing 1156 with 1155 -- we're talking about two totally different chipsets.

no, you misread, or didn't fully read, you have to live by one to get the i5 for the same price, you can order as many i7 950's as you want online. Please, your quote of my post has that part in it :P


On another note, I just reread the specs on Intel extreme processors and they are on the 1336 sockets and 1336 sockets are not compatable with 1155 or 1156 anyway you read it / force push processor into slot. 1366 and 1336 remain the enthusiast chipset while 1155 and 1156 are considered more entry level, hense no extremem processor for the 1155 nor 1156 socket

So for a test, I took a i7 950 and disabled hyperthreading in the bios and found that most of the time, I was peggin all cores over 60 percent just sitting on a bird in org with five clients. when flying around, follow did not break on the characters, but core utalization pegged out at 100 percent on some cores with descent frequency. when i am in a pvp battle with hyperthreading, I don't get above 60 percent on my box as a refference. the feel also wasn't as fluid as it is with the hyperthreading enabled IMO. I only have 12 gig's on this rig but I will see how well I can push more clients to help the OP's decision

cont...

on another rig although with a i7 930, I was able to run 9 clients with low graphics settings. the ram consumption was not what I expected from Kick's setup, only used about 6.8 GBs, possibly cause it only reserves a certain portion of ram and not a set amount unless below the true mim requirements. anyone who has delt with citrix desktop virtualization of windows desktop application will have seen this result as well as this has been the only other place where I have cared to look. I think I saw this ram consumption result also on another dual xeon test rig that was setup by a friend. anyway, I also did a flight test just running over the population of org and found that there was no follow breaks. turning off hyperthreading resulted in clients breaking follow in the flight test. Of course, I can not be sure how the faster non hyperthreaded processor i5 will deal, but at least we have two systems, one by kicksome and another by myself, that can do what you want. still need someone to do a Proof of Concept for the i5. btw, the 9 client rig was running with a much older graphics card than kick's, a 260 Nvidia.

@OP, hope this helps

thanks for all the fish

[JohnGabriel]

RAM is very important yes, but for most cases the biggest improvement you can make for boxing is your harddrive.

Even a high speed raptor hard drive isnt really good enough for multiboxing. SS drives are something like 100 times faster than the fastest traditional raptor drive. (dont quote me on that though, cant remember exactly the speed difference)

I'd choose a priority system like this:
Get 8 gigs ram > get 64 bit windows > get solid state drives > get 12 gig ram

[d0z3rr]

RAM is very important yes, but for most cases the biggest improvement you can make for boxing is your harddrive.

Even a high speed raptor hard drive isnt really good enough for multiboxing. SS drives are something like 100 times faster than the fastest traditional raptor drive. (dont quote me on that though, cant remember exactly the speed difference)

I'd choose a priority system like this:
Get 8 gigs ram > get 64 bit windows > get solid state drives > get 12 gig ram

Competely false. I've been multiboxing on 7200rpm 16mb cache hard drives for years. The biggest improvents in performance I had was when I upgraded from a q6600 to an i7.

Hard drives will absolutely not increase your frame rates or the number of clients you have. All they do is reduce the amount of time characters load in large areas, and your loading screens. Who cares about loading screens in WoW anyways? On my crappy 7200 rpm drives I don't believe any loading screen in WoW lasted longer than 5 seconds.

[Ualaa]

I would say if you don't have enough RAM, then RAM is your cheapest upgrade.
And lacking enough, also your best upgrade possible.
Once you have enough, more doesn't do you much.
And you might need a 64-bit OS, to use the ram otherwise having it is pointless.

Processor is massively important for Warcraft.
Almost all of the video effects are more processor intensive than video intensive.
If you have enough ram for your clients, this would be the biggest upgrade.

Hard Drive upgrades from a platter drive to a solid state drive is a huge upgrade too.
And given the relative cost of a low end SSD, versus a processor upgrade that might require a motherboard and ram as well...
Per cost, an SSD might be a larger improvement... but this is more for loading times, zoning times, etc... not nearly as much of an impact as the processor once you're in the zone and playing.

Personal experience may vary.