Techniques for SL, Blackheart needed

[TeamHagg]

I have a 4 sham, 1 paly team (all 70) and I am having a terrible time with SL, Blackheart the inciter. I have read what I could here and watched the videos but nothing has helped. The problem...I have about 6500-6700 HP on the shammies, at least 1 dies in the first MC and most end up with under 500 health. This means the first thunder clap kills the rest. I usually end up with the boss at 85% going into the 2nd MC and maybe 2 guys alive.

During the MC they get off 2 shocks on each other and usually at least 1 CL. Flame shock seems to be what he makes them use most.

I have tried dropping groundings right before the MC and stoneclaws, nothing saves them. I chose dps gear for most of their rewards other than the resto, so I dont have a healing set to toss on all of em.

The answer might simply be to buy them all healing sets and take off all other dps gear, but I am hoping I am missing something simple.

Any ideas are welcomed.

I have cleared steamvaults, most of shattered halls and evertyhign below (other than skipping the big eye guy in crypts who pissed me off). Just started Tempest keep.

Names are ahagg, bhagg, chagg and dhagg on Bronzebeard. Tank is kendralouise

[TeamHagg]

I did . I was hoping, given how many people are running shammy/paly, that someone had figured out some easy trick.

I have a well geared priest that I can bring in with paly easy enough and duo it.

[raylion]

My last post in the link above is the tactic I'm currently using which is working 90% of the time. Ideally I would want to do this boss properly like a normal 5 man group but he's such a pain and there's so much luck with this fight that I find doing it with the elementals and the pally healing a simpler solution.

[elo]

My theory on this (only 63 atm) is to load up on nature resist and make sure to use a shield. Reason being that you are your own worst enemy in this fight and if you can neutralize yourself then you have a better chance of surviving.

I laughed my ass off on this fight when I ran in with 3 of my fully geared kara buddies and a new level 70. Our rogue absolutely gutted him in 4 seconds flat, then quickly dispatched the rest of us. To finish him off the rogue had to switch to some grey weapons we'd picked up through the instance, then back to his 90+ DPS weapons for a few good hits, and then back before the MC went off again.

[Ztar]

I run it with a 5 shaman team. Or did run i might say, never setting my foot there again as i turned exalted yesterday for the lower city mace.

Burn all bloodlust at start of fight,
Buff whit whatever totems you prefer
Use Stone elemenatls for tanking.
All out dps. (boss for is usally around 25-40% at first MC)
As soon as MC is over get together, while stone elemental regain aggro.
Chain heal one or two times.
Lightning bolt spam.

So i know this doesn't translate 100% to you're setup. Maybe u could put some DPS gear on the palla and help dps rather than tanking? Having the elemetals tank for u...

Regards,
Ztar

[Dezeral]

Thanks for some great advice. I have hit the wall on Blackheart myself. I tried a variety of things with mostly the same results posted by everyone here. I'm going to give Fur's suggestion a try this evening and see if I can make some progress.

Some of the other fights that are difficult to multi-box are the fire WITCH in Mechanaar. Moving independently is very difficult for a multi-boxer. The Eye boss in Auchenai is another fight that is tough to do the blasts you have to run away from. Hungarfen in the Underbog was nigh on impossible for me at level 63, but was easy with a few levels. The dragon in Ramparts was really tough at level 62, but after a lot of wipes, I was able to finally bring him down. I have not been back now that I hit 70, but I would assume that the dragon would drop in no time to the massively increased DPS.

I don't think I have seen a consolidated listing of strategies for specific encounters. Would it be worthwhile to create a specific forum to discuss these kinds of things? Maybe create a thread for Blackheart the Inciter and then everyone can add to that one single thread for what they have found works for them? The forum could expand with new threads for specific encounters as people try to tackle them. If this already exists and I've missed it somehow, point me in the right direction

[Vyndree]

The easy trick -- 2 man it with a tank and healer. It will be along, icky fight.

The harder version -- Mana pots, earth shield the tank. Bandage. Everyone must be topped off before an incite chaos, but you need to stay under the (probably oom) prot pally's threat ALL the time. Prot pallies as a rule suck at this fight due to their "blue bar". Expect to lose someone during the incite chaos.

Your totems will turn on you during the incite chaos phase. Grounding totem will not save you. Heroism will probably kill you.

I did hear someone mentioning that they should wear NR gear for this fight, since shammy damage is almost all nature. It seemed like a good idea, but I've never tested the theory as I'm never going in shadow labs past the 2nd boss again.

[Vyndree]

Would it be worthwhile to create a specific forum to discuss these kinds of things?

Absolutely.

http://dual-boxing.com/wiki/index.php/Instances


Discussion on the forums always works too.

[mlwhitt]

Blackheart is bad enough for a half way competent group under normal play, I can't imagine try him while multiboxing. His AOE MC is pure evil.

[TeamHagg]

My last post in the link above is the tactic I'm currently using which is working 90% of the time. Ideally I would want to do this boss properly like a normal 5 man group but he's such a pain and there's so much luck with this fight that I find doing it with the elementals and the pally healing a simpler solution.

DOH! I figured the elementals would be a bigger problem due to them pounding on you also.

Do the earth elementals aggro you once you get MC?

Do they suffer from the knockback?

This sounds easier than what I have been trying, just put healing gear on the paly and heal the elementals. Would also allow almost full out dps. Do you drop all 4/5 or can 2, if healed, tank him?